From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Daniel Colascione Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#24849: Is Emacs put in idle mode when window is not focused? Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2016 13:37:36 -0700 Message-ID: <26658800-320f-359a-6e35-a9deb06d5ed0@dancol.org> References: <83oa1znpah.fsf@gnu.org> <83wpgnm014.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1478032698 31911 195.159.176.226 (1 Nov 2016 20:38:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2016 20:38:18 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.4.0 Cc: 24849@debbugs.gnu.org To: Johan Andersson Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 01 21:38:14 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c1fov-0006xO-Jh for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Nov 2016 21:38:09 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51129 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c1fox-0001Ru-61 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Nov 2016 16:38:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48060) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c1foq-0001Rk-V0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Nov 2016 16:38:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c1fon-0007Xb-Rb for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Nov 2016 16:38:04 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:52268) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c1fon-0007XU-Np for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Nov 2016 16:38:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c1fon-0004qG-IO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Nov 2016 16:38:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Daniel Colascione Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2016 20:38:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 24849 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 24849-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B24849.147803266218585 (code B ref 24849); Tue, 01 Nov 2016 20:38:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 24849) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Nov 2016 20:37:42 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39434 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c1foT-0004ph-W9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Nov 2016 16:37:42 -0400 Original-Received: from dancol.org ([96.126.100.184]:43294) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c1foS-0004pa-Or for 24849@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Nov 2016 16:37:41 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=dancol.org; s=x; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID:From:Cc:References:To:Subject; bh=3X84SMhMJTpugqn778+h9kN4rLs3zZiHz3WhDObrDYo=; b=B6xJx4k7B0mKZ4PWxyVTrwviAE/HiRaRDO6O9kR6gpNaVAiTouhHjY3Ly5HEQ8lQvFjd8Ykf9LtjI68ZhdcgJ+ckj6grtd2gtfp5Sq/M8fPmLYZKUqxk/qVSDeNMysjAKjPdxagiz3pg7BksQ6qh7fwkP3i/XZgQM/9qvdexSorFPv5y8WLEkbd37SCCLwZVpxcttenE6YsKlsu62kfkVTqjWV9ImvD7mDdpTEUAaCz4/j2qt/27e0zq+zPAM041gi7ChLI8ByXsV4Y1DiODXAfJ8jlxcbv9INT6ig9jolC6cAX/6zD2XJe4YzZpHite2ZS0YY8nI42VrEK0gBQ6tA==; Original-Received: from c-73-97-199-232.hsd1.wa.comcast.net ([73.97.199.232] helo=[192.168.1.173]) by dancol.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c1foR-0005pF-Qo; Tue, 01 Nov 2016 13:37:39 -0700 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:125240 Archived-At: On 11/01/2016 01:33 PM, Johan Andersson wrote: >> BTW: please don't top-post > > Sorry, what? Please start your reply below the text to which you're replying. A: Because we read from top to bottom, left to right. Q: Why should I start my reply below the quoted text? A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: The lost context. Q: What makes top-posted replies harder to read than bottom-posted? A: Yes. Q: Should I trim down the quoted part of an email to which I'm replying? > >> Are you sure that your subprocess isn't buffering its output? > > No. Does that make a difference? Emacs can't respond to what it can't see. If your subprocess isn't pushing bytes to the kernel and is instead buffering internally, Emacs can't see those bytes. Internal buffering is a common cause of complaints about parent processes not seeing output from children. > >> Can you catch Emacs in the act? > > What do you mean? > >> Assuming GNU/Linux here. > > On a Mac here, but I might be able to find a GNU/Linux machine at work tomo. dtrace, which OS X supports, has similar system-call-tracing capabilities, although I don't know the correct incantation off the top of my head. >