From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Olivier Certner Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#63072: 28.2; CC Mode: Fix "bsd" style and add "freebsd" and "openbsd" ones Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2023 09:28:17 +0200 Message-ID: <2624808.XrqEPMHAR6@ravel> References: <5023567.7IPSAfTSoR@ravel> <4964691.nKnxuYGXMN@ravel> <83cz3rur7v.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="3921"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 63072@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 26 09:29:19 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1prZaZ-0000vr-Es for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 26 Apr 2023 09:29:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1prZaL-0004Dv-0p; Wed, 26 Apr 2023 03:29:05 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1prZaJ-0004Dd-4e for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Apr 2023 03:29:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1prZaI-0002Og-Sw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Apr 2023 03:29:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1prZaI-0004bJ-K3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Apr 2023 03:29:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Olivier Certner Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2023 07:29:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 63072 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 63072-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B63072.168249410317605 (code B ref 63072); Wed, 26 Apr 2023 07:29:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 63072) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Apr 2023 07:28:23 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54156 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1prZZe-0004Zt-M1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 26 Apr 2023 03:28:22 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp2-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.2]:18702) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1prZZc-0004Zf-2V for 63072@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 26 Apr 2023 03:28:20 -0400 Original-Received: from ravel.localnet (unknown [90.118.140.172]) (Authenticated sender: ocert.dev@free.fr) by smtp2-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 85D7E200594; Wed, 26 Apr 2023 09:28:17 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=free.fr; s=smtp-20201208; t=1682494098; bh=8x/PF6xy8TMLxEh4o32lwM32t3w8HzKuSxdWT6AikKE=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=kYhKRmO0Ldneys/ZtV5DEo1LT/ibnFRKq9IyVq9ylqI+mIQkux1w2g/k8GD07F1b9 6J4RW7u2XHy97g6Fv4mEO6ASsulGn6mSd/ZlMxYFIML8s92LscBhJb24ZPZpLvzNgU q9CDNNJDoW9XDVO3gxQBGD839Qh/Ejdgo1KOfO8rTNanqiQslEETz3BBxN50rypRop 7hPN2lPh5NPIZLv4M3e44RSwsCeeq8+4sgxWu5rxbj1GDSts6x+fqvX6oCFhnXS1D9 BKMIwxiDW1JVNOJWIrCtHlxqNMZIXpnb7O9P48ldeErzBpvccUg/1PUGvNA2FoIk+Z AYufSiL4ZlnuQ== In-Reply-To: <83cz3rur7v.fsf@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:260651 Archived-At: Hi, > If documented that these styles change to follow the corresponding > projects, it might be okay, but do we really want to commit ourselves > to follow them from now to eternity? That's a non-trivial maintenance > burden, unless the projects themselves take that up upon themselves, > and will be submitting changes whenever their conventions change. But I never said we would commit to that. On the contrary, what I would like is that the documentation says clearly that "freebsd" and "openbsd" may change, so that people are aware they cannot rely on these styles to always remain the same (contrary to the old styles). So that's rather a non- commitment. Additionally, these changes will be exceedingly rare, and styles will just be updated on a best-effort basis. Is that OK? -- Olivier Certner