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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>,
	Ryan Thompson <rct@thompsonclan.org>,
	27193@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#27193: 25.2; tmm should use completing-read-default
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2017 15:19:40 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <236c968a-a11f-4a5a-88bc-f60edb50aa18@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <669d7dff-a4bf-75b2-1652-6217efb84c72@yandex.ru>

> > The case that needs to be made for your proposal is really (IMO) that
> > there are /NO/ values of `completing-read-function', apart from
> > `completing-read-default', which would be compatible with the tmm code.
> 
> That would be too strong.

No.  That's exactly what you're forcing, if you force
`completing-read-default' as the ONLY possible value.

Precisely that: you allow no other values.  The claim
behind that must be that ALL other values would be
problematic and so must be disallowed.

> > I don't think you can make that case. I sense you
> > are extrapolating from your own particular use of
> > `completing-read-function' (and similar uses).
> 
> This is ridiculous. If there are functions that adhere to the contract
> of completing-read-function, and tmm can't work with them, tmm should
> use completing-read-default, and that's that.

"Adhere to the contract of `completing-read-function'"?
Are you kidding?  What contract is that?

 (defvar completing-read-function 'completing-read-default
   "The function called by `completing-read' to do its work.
 It should accept the same arguments as `completing-read'.")

Just accept the arguments - that's the only contract.
"Do the work" of `completing-read' is completely vague.

That means that anytime you can come up with a function that
accepts those args and causes trouble, `completing-read-default'
should be imposed as the only possible value.

THAT is ridiculous.

> I'll install the submitted patch in a few days if someone 
> doesn't beat me to it.

Of course you will.

> > The result is not even recognizable as completing-read.
> >
> > I don't think so. Certainly no more unrecognizable than Ido...
> 
> You are mixing up concepts right and left. E.g. APIs with their callers.

Nonsense.  Ido's completion behavior is as far from that of
vanilla `completing-read' as is Tmm's completion behavior
("the result").





  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-02 22:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-02  4:50 bug#27193: 25.2; tmm should use completing-read-default Ryan
2017-06-02 15:26 ` Drew Adams
2017-06-02 17:37   ` Ryan Thompson
2017-06-02 20:45     ` Ryan Thompson
2017-06-02 21:25     ` Drew Adams
2017-06-02 21:37       ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-06-02 22:19         ` Drew Adams [this message]
2017-06-02 22:24           ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-06-02 23:08           ` Ryan Thompson
2017-06-02 23:10             ` Ryan Thompson
2017-06-02 22:52       ` Ryan Thompson
2017-06-03  0:15         ` Drew Adams
2017-06-03  0:02 ` Glenn Morris

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