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Mon, 06 Apr 2020 15:37:38 +0000 Original-Received: from pps.filterd (aserp3030.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by aserp3030.oracle.com (8.16.0.42/8.16.0.42) with SMTP id 036FQcN5045146; Mon, 6 Apr 2020 15:35:37 GMT Original-Received: from userv0121.oracle.com (userv0121.oracle.com [156.151.31.72]) by aserp3030.oracle.com with ESMTP id 3073sq59jn-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 06 Apr 2020 15:35:37 +0000 Original-Received: from abhmp0008.oracle.com (abhmp0008.oracle.com [141.146.116.14]) by userv0121.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id 036FZTBE022854; Mon, 6 Apr 2020 15:35:31 GMT In-Reply-To: <87y2r9f1zv.fsf@fliptop.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.4966.0 (x86)] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9582 signatures=668685 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 mlxscore=0 phishscore=0 spamscore=0 malwarescore=0 suspectscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2003020000 definitions=main-2004060127 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9582 signatures=668685 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 phishscore=0 suspectscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 mlxscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 priorityscore=1501 lowpriorityscore=0 clxscore=1011 malwarescore=0 impostorscore=0 spamscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2003020000 definitions=main-2004060127 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:178088 Archived-At: > > But suppose I want to just download a package - its source files, and > > I don't want to "install" it (especially since I have no way of knowing > > what "installing" actually will do). How to do that - download the > > marked packages? How to find out how to do it? This is I guess my > > main question for this bug report. >=20 > Sounds interesting to me, a helper to download a source package > included > in the package system. A convenience feature. Maybe to strip down this > report to a feature request to add just that? I can imagine it could > trigger an itch with somebody. I don't want to strip this bug report / enhancement request to just a request for a command to download but not install the source file(s) of a package. It's true that that was what I was looking for initially. But as I tried looking everywhere in the pkg-list display, for help about that mode, I found that it seems to be missing the boat in helping users more generally. So from my point of view: 1. An important enhancement is to provide such a command. 2. Other, i.e., more help is needed. > Otherwise I guess the help from the list-packages for now is the link > to the package homepage. That's not help about using the pkg-list mode itself. That's info about a particular package. And yes, details about a package belong on the package homepage, even if a short description of each package is needed in the list display itself.