From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#6799: 24.0.50; Please add dired-details.el to Emacs [patch] Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 13:12:40 -0700 Message-ID: <21FFB8EA85964411A9B790386C5DA3AD@us.oracle.com> References: <9C9137560F644E759AD573BBBD8E59EF@us.oracle.com> <5EA47A0255F8494DB430B52D46876641@us.oracle.com> <65D921448B0644988BE6445A2EF3E021@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1342901626 7012 80.91.229.3 (21 Jul 2012 20:13:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 20:13:46 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 'Juanma Barranquero' , 'Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen' , 6799@debbugs.gnu.org To: "'Rob Giardina'" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 21 22:13:45 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ssg3b-00074S-2k for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 22:13:43 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59256 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ssg3a-0004tF-96 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 16:13:42 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:35893) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ssg3X-0004tA-VE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 16:13:41 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ssg3W-0005pi-H4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 16:13:39 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:46653) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ssg3W-0005pd-DC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 16:13:38 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ssg9i-0008Fv-A5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 16:20:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 20:20:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 6799 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 6799-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B6799.134290196331687 (code B ref 6799); Sat, 21 Jul 2012 20:20:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 6799) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Jul 2012 20:19:23 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56199 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ssg95-0008F1-04 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 16:19:23 -0400 Original-Received: from rcsinet15.oracle.com ([148.87.113.117]:35346) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ssg91-0008Et-9x for 6799@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 16:19:20 -0400 Original-Received: from ucsinet22.oracle.com (ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94]) by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id q6LKCr0t026707 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sat, 21 Jul 2012 20:12:54 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt357.oracle.com (acsmt357.oracle.com [141.146.40.157]) by ucsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q6LKCodu021510 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 21 Jul 2012 20:12:51 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt117.oracle.com (abhmt117.oracle.com [141.146.116.69]) by acsmt357.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q6LKCoJw014037; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 15:12:50 -0500 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/71.202.147.44) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 13:12:49 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Ac0i+q1nZa+/ykPiSESSpjuKwuq3fhEgWhrw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:62252 Archived-At: ping. Still hoping, after all these years... The replies from Emacs Dev have varied from = gee-we-don't-know-how-to-find-Rob (even though he has replied to this bug list and his email address = works) to gee-we-don't-know-whether-he-has-signed-papers (even though he has = replied here indicating that he has). What's the problem? (Again, this is for Emacs, not for me. I am content with loading dired-details(+).el for my own use. But it's a shame that Emacs users = do not have this great feature as part of Emacs.) > From: rob.giardina@gmail.com [mailto:rob.giardina@gmail.com]=20 > Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 8:47 AM >=20 > Thanks for remembering this patch Drew. I did work with RMS a long way > back but it fell by the wayside in the last phases. >=20 > The patch is just elisp and doc, no C. The changes are pretty simple > and contain all the community enhancements added later > (dired-details+). >=20 > Basically, it adds some bindings to a few functions that will loop > over the dired file listing lines to add invisibile overlays to the > messiest parts of the lines. Pretty self-contained. >=20 > It would have to be re-tested at this point. I've attached the old > ones if it will help decide if you want the feature. I can test some > fresh patches on HEAD in the next few weeks when my biz/personal life > calms a bit. >=20 > Regards, > Rob >=20 > On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Drew Adams=20 > wrote: > > > > As I have said several times now, ask Rob Giardina. =A0He=20 > > made a whole set of changes to various Emacs files, > > including perhaps C code. I am not aware of > > what changes he made. > > > > Rob has sent mail as recently as 2011/11/29 to=20 > > emacs-orgmode@gnu.org. =A0His address for that was > > rob@giardina.us. =A0(No, I do not subscribe to that mailing > > list. =A0But I know how to use Google.) =A0Please contact Rob. > > > > > > Please contact Rob Giardina. =A0I believe that he patched=20 > > > > the existing > > > > Dired code (and some C code? and some other Lisp code?), doing > > > > everything that was needed. > > > > > > If you want this code included in Emacs, please assemble=20 > > > the patch and post it here. > > > > It is not a question of "if I want". =A0It was decided by RMS=20 > > that this should be included in Emacs. =A0Long, long ago. > >=A0Rob did the work required for this to > > happen, but no one ever committed it, AFAIK. > > > > What I use, personally, is dired-details.el plus=20 > > dired-details+.el, and they > > suffice. =A0But Rob went to the trouble of patching Emacs in=20 > > various places, > > integrating the features cleanly at a more basic level etc. > > > > I have no idea what Rob's changes were, but if you search=20 > > the mailing list > > perhaps you can find references to them. =A0Rob refers to a=20 > > patch for 2005-07-07 > > CVS, here: > > http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel/74172 > > > > Here is the last mail from Rob on the subject, AFAIK: > > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2007-07/msg00215.html > > > > Here is my last mail on the subject, with relevant links: > > > > > From: Drew Adams Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 7:34 AM > > > > I discovered dired-details and dired-details+ and found=20 > > > > them useful. > > > > Could they be added to emacs? > > > > > > > > http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/DiredDetails > > > > > > They were supposed to be added. Rob Giardina submitted an > > > Emacs 23 patch two years ago that integrates the functionality > > > of both in a better way even than the separate libraries > > > dired-details[+].el. > > > > > > I don't think any reason was ever given for why the patch > > > wasn't incorporated (committed). RMS asked for comment on > > > the merged code, but no one ever answered his request > > > (on emacs-devel, at least). The last time I ping'ed the > > > list about this was 2008-07 - I never got an answer either. > > > > > > Last ping: > > >=20 > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2008-07/msg01152.html > > > > > > Rob's change log and RMS's call for comment: > > >=20 > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2007-07/msg01187.html > > > > > > Original thread: > > >=20 > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2007-07/msg00226.html