From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#15648: 24.2.50; gnutls SSL connection to IMAP server causes emacs to crash completely Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 10:23:16 -0500 Message-ID: <21122.18404.717246.678710@consult.pretender> References: <21089.32240.198931.971000@consult.pretender> <21094.39055.449629.706850@consult.pretender> <21094.40085.664080.69561@consult.pretender> <21094.52645.645440.977584@consult.pretender> <21094.64459.131668.849138@consult.pretender> <21095.19949.639350.970770@consult.pretender> <83wql4hvam.fsf@gnu.org> <21096.920.835718.562924@consult.pretender> <83hac7j2a2.fsf@gnu.org> <21097.58066.940940.323995@consult.pretender> <83iowlh27q.fsf@gnu.org> <87eh79ico2.fsf_-_@flea.lifelogs.com> <83a9hxgpt1.fsf@gnu.org> <8738ncru9y.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> <83ppqg85av.fsf@gnu.org> <87r4awqbyj.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> <21112.7243.280084.910310@consult.pretender> <87eh6vpokt.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> <21113.31504.667278.227022@consult.pretender> <21113.34121.522223.876292@consult.pretender> <87iovzhr4w.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> <21121.12973.425585.122543@consult.pretender> <83a9ha3di0.fsf@gnu.org> <21121.21145.78183.968876@consult.pretender> <8338n22rvm.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; 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12 Nov 2013 15:23:31 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48928 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VgFoQ-0003kN-NO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Nov 2013 10:23:31 -0500 Original-Received: from vms173003pub.verizon.net ([206.46.173.3]:46491) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VgFoN-0003k6-3M for 15648@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Nov 2013 10:23:27 -0500 Original-Received: from consult.pretender ([unknown] [96.237.159.120]) by vms173003.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MW500GE4PETXVB0@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> for 15648@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Nov 2013 09:23:19 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from consult.pretender (consult.pretender [127.0.0.1]) by consult.pretender (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id rACFNGIX004239; Tue, 12 Nov 2013 10:23:17 -0500 In-reply-to: <8338n22rvm.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer: VM 8.2.0b under 23.1.1 (i386-redhat-linux-gnu) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:80323 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii wrote at about 05:58:21 +0200 on Tuesday, November 12, 2013: > > From: > > Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 16:56:41 -0500 > > Cc: emacs@kosowsky.org, tzz@lifelogs.com, alptekin.aker@gmail.com, > > 15648-done@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > > Thank you. So I consider this bug resolved, and I'm closing it. > > > > IT IS NOT RESOLVED - all you did was remove the problem from being one > > of emacs crashing to the slightly less severe instance of gnutls > > itself crashing! > > The crash is the only problem I considered in this bug report that we > must resolve. Well, I regret helping then. I was specifically led to believe that if I helped resolve the emacs crash, then you would consider addressing the original bug report. If you are going to be selfish and only address your personal issues, then I will *never* again contribute to this effort. I am more than competent to write all the elisp code I need for my own support. > > > No, this is because "/usr/ssl/certs/ca-bundle.crt" _is_ a valid Cygwin > > > file name, but you are not running a Cygwin build of Emacs, where it > > > would be valid. > > > > Why should I be required to only run a Cygwin build of Emacs? Is that > > documented anywhere? > > If you want to use Cygwin features, you should use a Cygwin build of > Emacs, yes. That is your choice. Others have other needs and other preferences. You need to stop being so arrogant and narrow-minded. > > > > Actually, there's a fundamental incompatibility between cygwin-mount > > > and a native build of Emacs. Just say no. > > > > Cygwin-mount works perfectly for me... it always has... > > > > Plus, the problem is more general than cygwin-mount. The problem > > potentially lies with any magic file handler. > > No, the problem is that cygwin-mount is an incomplete solution for > handling such file names. The problem lies with (almost) any magic file handler. Gnutls.el code is broken. You are either intentionally or unintentionally being pig-headed and missing the broader point that the code breaks with almost any valid magic file handler.