From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#15648: 24.2.50; gnutls SSL connection to IMAP server causes emacs to crash completely Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2013 14:12:53 -0500 Message-ID: <21110.41013.340116.42410@consult.pretender> References: <21089.32240.198931.971000@consult.pretender> <21096.1667.116936.254737@consult.pretender> <83eh7bj1yq.fsf@gnu.org> <87ppqvke5u.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> <87fvrun1pw.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> <21093.32992.278229.646703@consult.pretender> <877gd5mo5x.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> <21094.39055.449629.706850@consult.pretender> <21094.40085.664080.69561@consult.pretender> <21094.52645.645440.977584@consult.pretender> <21094.64459.131668.849138@consult.pretender> <21095.19949.639350.970770@consult.pretender> <21096.24492.292723.589004@consult.pretender> <87eh7bj5no.fsf_-_@flea.lifelogs.com> <21097.10816.221279.461499@consult.pretender> <21097.27136.910137.181740@consult.pretender> <21098.31018.184128.497305@consult.pretender> <87y555socz.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> <21110.26587.721061.28128@consult.pretender> <83fvrd9ysr.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; 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3 Nov 2013 19:13:35 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32946 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vd378-0006hQ-Uw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Nov 2013 14:13:35 -0500 Original-Received: from vms173007pub.verizon.net ([206.46.173.7]:59173) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vd376-0006h2-Px for 15648@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Nov 2013 14:13:33 -0500 Original-Received: from consult.pretender ([unknown] [72.93.211.153]) by vms173007.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MVP00E76C1I0QR0@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net> for 15648@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Nov 2013 13:13:10 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from consult.pretender (consult.pretender [127.0.0.1]) by consult.pretender (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id rA3JCrt7032713; Sun, 03 Nov 2013 14:12:54 -0500 In-reply-to: <83fvrd9ysr.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer: VM 8.2.0b under 23.1.1 (i386-redhat-linux-gnu) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:79926 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii wrote at about 19:32:04 +0200 on Sunday, November 3, 2013: > > From: > > Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2013 10:12:27 -0500 > > Cc: emacs@kosowsky.org, 15648@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > Looking through files.el, I noticed that there is a function that > > seems to be similar in intent. > > > > The function is called convert-standard-filename. All it really does > > currently is replace invalid characters/filenames for > > cygwin/windows-nt/ms-dos. > > No, please leave that function alone. Its purpose is different: to > convert a _standard_ file name used in Emacs, such as ".emacs", to > something the underlying system can use. IOW, that function is so > that Posix systems could use any file name they want, and non-Posix > systems adapt. I agree... as the rest of my note illustrates... it seems clear from reading the elisp code in file.el that expand-file-name and file-truename are the appropriate functions to use for translating file names to ones retrievable by the underlying (local) OS.