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From: Bruno Haible <bruno@clisp.org>
To: Pip Cet <pipcet@gmail.com>
Cc: 36370@debbugs.gnu.org, Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>,
	bug-gnulib@gnu.org
Subject: bug#36370: 27.0.50; XFIXNAT called on negative numbers
Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2019 01:30:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2067160.1HRgjLhtDS__29468.1845627323$1561764700$gmane$org@omega> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOqdjBfUd4X2xFS+tmNSH9LkY-T4oqBmL-xH8rac=O-2gObMQQ@mail.gmail.com>

Pip Cet wrote:
> have started believing the "an inline function is as fast as a macro"
> mantra*, assuming you include inline functions with "function calls".

Ah, that's where the entire topic with the function calls inside assume()
comes from! I agree it's an important case (more important than the
functions defined in other compilation units). So let's test this:

==================================== foo.c ====================================
#include <stdio.h>

#define assume(R) ((R) ? (void) 0 : __builtin_unreachable ())
//#define assume(R) (!__builtin_constant_p (!(R) == !(R)) || (R) ? (void) 0 : __builtin_unreachable ())

#if USE_MACROS
# define complicated(i) (((i) & 7) == 3)
# define nonnegative(i) ((i) >= 0)
#else
static inline int complicated (int i) { return (i & 7) == 3; }
static inline int nonnegative (int i) { return i >= 0; }
#endif

#if COMPLEX_CONDITION
# define CONDITION complicated (i) && nonnegative (i)
#else
# define CONDITION nonnegative (i)
#endif

int f_generic (int i)
{
  printf("%d\n", i & 0x80000000);
  return 0;
}

int f_condition (int i)
{
  if (CONDITION)
    printf("%d\n", i & 0x80000000);
  return 0;
}

int f_assume (int i)
{
  assume (CONDITION);
  printf("%d\n", i & 0x80000000);
  return 0;
}
===============================================================================
$ gcc -O2 -m32 -S foo.c && fgrep -v .cfi foo.s

Results:
// old 'assume', !COMPLEX_CONDITION, USE_MACROS  -> f_assume optimized
// old 'assume', COMPLEX_CONDITION,  USE_MACROS  -> f_assume optimized
// old 'assume', !COMPLEX_CONDITION, !USE_MACROS -> f_assume optimized
// old 'assume', COMPLEX_CONDITION,  !USE_MACROS -> f_assume optimized
// new 'assume', !COMPLEX_CONDITION, USE_MACROS  -> f_assume optimized
// new 'assume', COMPLEX_CONDITION,  USE_MACROS  -> f_assume optimized
// new 'assume', !COMPLEX_CONDITION, !USE_MACROS -> f_assume not optimized
// new 'assume', COMPLEX_CONDITION,  !USE_MACROS -> f_assume not optimized

So, the main effect of the proposed new 'assume' is that it de-optimizes
the case where the CONDITION is defined using inline functions!

The other case - that the CONDITION calls functions defined in other
compilation units - is a fringe case. And the topic regarding the
COMPLEX_CONDITION versus simple condition is also less important.

Based on these results, I formally object against the proposed patch.

> > (2) that the generated code will never include these function calls,
> >     because the generated code with the 'assume' invocation should be
> >     optimized at least as well as the generated code without the
> >     'assume' invocation.
> 
> I think it should be the rarest of exceptions for an assume() to
> result in slower code, yes. I believe that includes the case where
> functions marked inline aren't inlined, because of compiler options,
> for example.

Then, I think we should change the documentation of 'assume' to say
that when it invokes functions, these functions should be marked
'__attribute__ ((__always_inline__))', otherwise performance will
be worse than without the 'assume', not better.

> (1) implement the documented API, and don't change it
> (2) when optimizing for speed, do not produce slower code with
> eassume() than we would without it. Even when the programmer wrongly
> guessed that a function would be inlined.
> (3) when optimizing for size, do not produce larger code with
> eassume() than we would without it. Even when inline functions are not
> inlined.
> (4) be at least as fast as gnulib assume()

You evidently have slightly different quality criteria than I do. :)

> > I believe the only way to attain the goals and the quality criteria
> > is, as you suggested, to ask the GCC people to add a __builtin_assume
> > built-in.
> 
> I think there's a significant probability that the GCC people would
> agree to add such a built-in, but insist on its having "may or may not
> evaluate its argument" semantics.

We can tell them that it would be important for us that is does not
evaluate its argument. Like sizeof (EXPRESSION) does not evaluate EXPRESSION.

> Sorry if I'm being a bit dense here.

No problem. I'm also often being dense.

Bruno






  reply	other threads:[~2019-06-28 23:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-06-25  5:36 bug#36370: 27.0.50; XFIXNAT called on negative numbers Pip Cet
2019-06-27  1:10 ` Paul Eggert
2019-06-27  6:16   ` Pip Cet
2019-06-27  8:28     ` Paul Eggert
2019-06-27 13:17       ` Pip Cet
2019-06-27 13:37         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-27 19:38         ` Paul Eggert
2019-06-27 19:56           ` Pip Cet
2019-06-27 21:13             ` Paul Eggert
     [not found]             ` <5284eb58-3560-da42-d1d1-3bdb930eae49@cs.ucla.edu>
2019-06-27 21:37               ` Pip Cet
2019-06-27 23:45               ` Bruno Haible
     [not found]               ` <2715311.ceefYqj39C@omega>
2019-06-28  0:04                 ` Paul Eggert
2019-06-28 11:06                 ` Pip Cet
2019-06-28 12:14                   ` Bruno Haible
     [not found]                   ` <8979488.cRkkfcT1mV@omega>
2019-06-28 12:29                     ` Bruno Haible
2019-06-28 13:51                     ` Pip Cet
     [not found]                     ` <CAOqdjBfS99UpLZ-qLe4=FMXMsr+T3LUvJEsf_gfmF6wwLbqgOw@mail.gmail.com>
2019-06-28 17:46                       ` Paul Eggert
2019-06-28 19:11                       ` Bruno Haible
     [not found]                       ` <a293f2fe-99b3-3776-f27b-35e3a93d1d34@cs.ucla.edu>
2019-06-28 19:15                         ` Pip Cet
2019-06-28 19:56                           ` Bruno Haible
2019-06-28 21:08                             ` Pip Cet
2019-06-29  5:41                           ` Paul Eggert
     [not found]                           ` <87168b28-192b-6666-e9b6-9cdc2ed3917a@cs.ucla.edu>
2019-06-29  6:48                             ` Pip Cet
     [not found]                             ` <CAOqdjBfcNbXFw3Fb0wgRR10PNbkJQ+88ObE9KEghLSb-ptdrbA@mail.gmail.com>
2019-06-29 17:31                               ` Paul Eggert
     [not found]                               ` <791ae316-3a6f-605a-0da5-874fe3d224c5@cs.ucla.edu>
2019-06-30  9:21                                 ` Pip Cet
     [not found]                       ` <11002295.LrvMqknVDZ@omega>
2019-06-28 21:07                         ` Pip Cet
2019-06-28 23:30                           ` Bruno Haible [this message]
     [not found]                           ` <2067160.1HRgjLhtDS@omega>
2019-06-29  5:40                             ` Paul Eggert
2019-06-29  5:44                             ` Pip Cet
     [not found]                             ` <CAOqdjBcNA4mDiwsd_jbeePGMdUwPvkFCNdgtZvmiQnYmJNR3pA@mail.gmail.com>
2019-06-29 10:31                               ` Bruno Haible
     [not found]                               ` <2515002.Q0mBYvUW8C@omega>
2019-06-29 17:11                                 ` Paul Eggert
     [not found]                                 ` <99bacb9f-1192-1315-85d7-5ab4924dfef8@cs.ucla.edu>
2019-06-29 17:48                                   ` Bruno Haible
2019-06-30 15:30                                 ` Pip Cet
     [not found]                                 ` <CAOqdjBeiMno7nGKwk7SSZQob+CTyG39KRTM9EEebq7NQavLR-Q@mail.gmail.com>
2019-06-30 15:45                                   ` Bruno Haible
2019-07-02 23:39                                     ` Paul Eggert
2019-07-01  1:46                                   ` Richard Stallman

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