From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?Q?=C5=A0t=C4=9Bp=C3=A1n_?= =?UTF-8?Q?N=C4=9Bmec?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#65267: 30.0.50; modifying debug-ignored-errors during startup with --debug-init is broken, bug#65267: 30.0.50; modifying debug-ignored-errors during startup with --debug-init is broken Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2023 19:27:33 +0200 Message-ID: <20230817192733+0200.156384-stepnem@smrk.net> References: <20230813095429+0200.5928-stepnem@smrk.net> <20230813190826+0200.765169-stepnem@smrk.net> <83v8de581n.fsf@gnu.org> <83h6ox6bnk.fsf@gnu.org> <20230817161619+0200.191251-stepnem@smrk.net> <20230813095429+0200.5928-stepnem@smrk.net> <20230813095429+0200.5928-stepnem@smrk.net> <20230813190826+0200.765169-stepnem@smrk.net> <83v8de581n.fsf@gnu.org> <83h6ox6bnk.fsf@gnu.org> <20230817161619+0200.191251-stepnem@smrk.net> <83bkf568rf.fsf@gnu.org> <83bkf568rf.fsf@gnu.org> <20230817175259+0200.372333-stepnem@smrk.net> <6ed65a8d107fa5ee5a95@heytings.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; 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Thu, 17 Aug 2023 19:27:34 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <6ed65a8d107fa5ee5a95@heytings.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:267681 Archived-At: On Thu, 17 Aug 2023 17:15:03 +0000 Gregory Heytings wrote: >>> Yes. This cannot fly, since we had end-of-file there for a long time=20 >>> (I see it in Emacs 20). >> >> I only wish someone would put forth an actual argument for having=20 >> end-of-file on debug-ignored-errors. >> > > See NEWS.19: > > ** The variable 'debug-ignored-errors' specifies certain kinds of errors= =20 > that should not enter the debugger. Its value is a list of error=20 > condition symbols and/or regular expressions. If the error has any of th= e=20 > condition symbols listed, or if any of the regular expressions matches th= e=20 > error message, then that error does not enter the debugger, regardless of= =20 > the value of debug-on-error. > > This variable is initialized to match certain common but uninteresting=20 > errors that happen often during editing. > > To see what this means in practice, try: > > emacs -Q > M-: (setq debug-ignored-errors nil) RET > M-x toggle-debug-on-error RET > " > M-x eval-buffer RET Thank you, but I believe we all knew that, already. My point has been that end-of-file doesn't really belong to the "common but uninteresting errors that happen often during editing", and your example doesn't change that, no. I guess I can imagine some kind of constantly-evaling-buffer-no-matter-what automation, triggered by examples like yours, leading to annoyance, but I'm not aware of such a thing (and would consider such automation broken if it existed; surely it would at least have to be handling end-of-file itself anyway). --=20 =C5=A0t=C4=9Bp=C3=A1n