From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?Q?=C5=A0t=C4=9Bp=C3=A1n_?= =?UTF-8?Q?N=C4=9Bmec?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#65267: 30.0.50; modifying debug-ignored-errors during startup with --debug-init is broken Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2023 08:48:38 +0200 Message-ID: <20230814084838+0200.989625-stepnem@smrk.net> References: <20230813095429+0200.5928-stepnem@smrk.net> <20230813095429+0200.5928-stepnem@smrk.net> <20230813190826+0200.765169-stepnem@smrk.net> <20230813223458+0200.843367-stepnem@smrk.net> <83r0o6bbqw.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="30605"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Notmuch/0.37 (https://notmuchmail.org) Emacs/30.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Cc: 65267@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 14 08:49:19 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qVROA-0007ll-Md for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Mon, 14 Aug 2023 08:48:38 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <83r0o6bbqw.fsf@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:267395 Archived-At: On Mon, 14 Aug 2023 05:26:15 +0300 Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: =C5=A0t=C4=9Bp=C3=A1n N=C4=9Bmec >> Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 65267@debbugs.gnu.org, Noam Postavsky >> >> Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2023 22:34:58 +0200 >>=20 >> So, yes, I agree that end-of-file (which indeed isn't unlikely to occur >> during loading) now ending up in the debugger is an improvement. >>=20 >> Checking git history, I also see that end-of-file has been in >> debug-ignored-errors since forever, but I still can't rid myself of >> doubts regarding its usefulness there. Would you have an explanation >> for that, too? Other than it not fitting with the others (IMHO), its >> absence there would likely save us all this (bug#64163 and the ensuing >> mess). I find any of the other members of debug-ignored-errors being >> triggered during startup much less likely. (And, OTOH, why would I want >> to ignore end-of-file during interactive use with d-o-e set?) > > It is not ignored, it just doesn't enter the debugger. That's what I meant, sorry for not being clearer. Unlike the other members of debug-ignored-errors, end-of-file doesn't strike me as an error likely to cause annoyance rather than provide useful backtrace data when running with debug-on-error set, so I don't understand why it's there by default. I'll remove it here and see how that goes. --=20 =C5=A0t=C4=9Bp=C3=A1n