From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Van Ly Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#62898: 29.0.90; X =?UTF-8?Q?can=E2=80=99t?= be input by the current input method [chinese-ctlaub] Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2023 17:10:24 GMT Message-ID: <202304221710.33MHAOhJ000261@sdf.org> References: <202304171211.33HCBXgR003489@sdf.org> <83354v6kis.fsf@gnu.org> <202304201939.33KJdQhO013365@sdf.org> <83pm7w1cdz.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="6006"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 62898@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 22 19:11:21 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pqGld-0001Oi-Mc for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 22 Apr 2023 19:11:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pqGlL-00045R-NR; Sat, 22 Apr 2023 13:11:03 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pqGlK-00045C-Qo for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Apr 2023 13:11:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pqGlK-0007mm-A4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Apr 2023 13:11:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pqGlJ-0001GI-Ji for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Apr 2023 13:11:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Van Ly Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2023 17:11:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 62898 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 62898-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B62898.16821834324806 (code B ref 62898); Sat, 22 Apr 2023 17:11:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 62898) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Apr 2023 17:10:32 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44083 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pqGkq-0001FS-25 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Apr 2023 13:10:32 -0400 Original-Received: from mx.sdf.org ([205.166.94.24]:59111) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pqGkn-0001FG-7S for 62898@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Apr 2023 13:10:30 -0400 Original-Received: from sdf.org (IDENT:van.ly@faeroes.freeshell.org [205.166.94.9]) by mx.sdf.org (8.16.1/8.14.5) with ESMTPS id 33MHAQth018039 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Sat, 22 Apr 2023 17:10:27 GMT DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=sdf.org; s=my-selector-name; t=1682183427; bh=m8qRyqFirjdXVTOveQ7nxn+BNgkwzSHhfw6xtmZEv+Q=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:Subject:References; b=3O+BckaEqK6JjD8sAT3eipB5jmdkRvygiCqiu6g34mvEykpqhk5xWMnk7gVs5Vr1D cDsGbVVlyQ5W5sSA7uAirLl6uJr43sfx3OPQUg3Lo7yJsOXFa4x+K9rmDfA3HGeXAn L4lf596gyejQ4N+eE0PPi2xUYX2UUKKld9989RHQ= Original-Received: (from van.ly@localhost) by sdf.org (8.16.1/8.12.8/Submit) id 33MHAOhJ000261; Sat, 22 Apr 2023 17:10:24 GMT In-Reply-To: <83pm7w1cdz.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Sat, 22 Apr 2023 12:42:32 +0300) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:260481 Archived-At: > Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2023 12:42:32 +0300 > From: Eli Zaretskii > Cc: 62898@debbugs.gnu.org > Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > > Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2023 19:39:26 GMT > > From: Van Ly > > Cc: 62898@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > > > Looking at the below for #x6a58 > > > > - https://humanum.arts.cuhk.edu.hk/Lexis/lexi-mf/search.php?word=%E6%A9%98 > > > > The left margin section, at the bottom, has a drop down menu and the > > CTLau phonology is obtained by selecting the bottom option. > > > > There the phonological reading for #x6a58 is given by gat and gwat. > > We already have GAT and GWAT in CTLau-b5.html. Are you saying we > should add #x6a58 to the list of characters in those 2 lines? > Yes, homonym GAT expands to four graphs. So, add one. Do the same for GWAT. It would be like adding a new word or variant spelling to the spellchecker interactive flow. You will see the homonym CHO expands to 17 graphs. Maybe there are more to add there. > > Looking at the CTLau-b input sequence for \foh > > > > - https://humanum.arts.cuhk.edu.hk/Lexis/lexi-mf/search.php?word=%E7%85%92 > > > > the humanum gives the reading wai, is there any memory for some > > CTLau-b input sequences having the backslash prefix? The sounding foh > > refers to the fire character indexical is my guess which might have > > been a mnemonic for the authors of CTLau-b5.html . > > Sorry, I don't understand: the above is for a different Unicode > codpoint, U+7152. How is that relevant to the issue at hand? The homomym \FOH has a backslash prefix, the other input sequences don't have a prefix symbol. I don't know why that convention is. At a guess, the prefix adds a different style of input sequence. Maybe that is explained in the documentation I haven't reached. > > > > Are there any newer sources for this input method which we could use? > > > > - http://sdf.org/~van.ly/img/x6a58--gat--gwat--add-to-CTLau-b5.jpg > > I don't understand how to interpret that image, sorry. > I included the picture to accompany the above wording on navigating to the dropdown menu and to show the GAT and GWAT homonym as displayed, as a help, and to suggest how the phonoloreading once looked up can be used to augment entries no found in the received CTLau-b5.html . You will also see there are TOFU graphs, so the situation is an improving incomplete work in progress.