* bug#61613: 30.0.50; ffap-other-window ignores ffap-require-prefix [not found] <87pma6tlth.fsf.ref@aol.com> @ 2023-02-19 2:45 ` Ergus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors 2023-02-19 9:21 ` Eli Zaretskii 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Ergus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors @ 2023-02-19 2:45 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 61613 Hi: I just found that ffap-other-window ignores when ffap-require-prefix is non-nil. Looking at the code it seems to be that find-file-at-point has: (and (called-interactively-p 'interactive) (if ffap-require-prefix (not current-prefix-arg) current-prefix-arg)) but ffap-other-window calls find-file-at-point no interactively. Same for ffap-other-frame, ffap-other-tab and so on... I am not sure if the (called-interactively-p 'interactive) test is actually needed in the first place, but I could be wrong. Is this intended? 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* bug#61613: 30.0.50; ffap-other-window ignores ffap-require-prefix 2023-02-19 2:45 ` bug#61613: 30.0.50; ffap-other-window ignores ffap-require-prefix Ergus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors @ 2023-02-19 9:21 ` Eli Zaretskii 2023-02-19 10:09 ` Ergus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2023-02-19 9:21 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Ergus; +Cc: 61613 > Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2023 03:45:30 +0100 > From: Ergus via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, > the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> > > I just found that ffap-other-window ignores when ffap-require-prefix is > non-nil. > > Looking at the code it seems to be that find-file-at-point has: > > (and (called-interactively-p 'interactive) > (if ffap-require-prefix (not current-prefix-arg) > current-prefix-arg)) > > but ffap-other-window calls find-file-at-point no interactively. Same > for ffap-other-frame, ffap-other-tab and so on... What would be the point of supporting ffap-require-prefix when you call ffap-other-window? That variable controls whether to invoke ffap-file-finder, which is not suitable for -other-window commands, I think? That is why, AFAIU, when not called interactively, find-file-at-point doesn't call ffap-file-finder at all, and therefore there's no point in heeding ffap-require-prefix. Right? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* bug#61613: 30.0.50; ffap-other-window ignores ffap-require-prefix 2023-02-19 9:21 ` Eli Zaretskii @ 2023-02-19 10:09 ` Ergus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors 2023-02-19 10:15 ` Eli Zaretskii 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Ergus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors @ 2023-02-19 10:09 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 61613 On February 19, 2023 10:21:02 AM GMT+01:00, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote: >> Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2023 03:45:30 +0100 >> From: Ergus via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, >> the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> >> >> I just found that ffap-other-window ignores when ffap-require-prefix is >> non-nil. >> >> Looking at the code it seems to be that find-file-at-point has: >> >> (and (called-interactively-p 'interactive) >> (if ffap-require-prefix (not current-prefix-arg) >> current-prefix-arg)) >> >> but ffap-other-window calls find-file-at-point no interactively. Same >> for ffap-other-frame, ffap-other-tab and so on... > >What would be the point of supporting ffap-require-prefix when you >call ffap-other-window? That variable controls whether to invoke >ffap-file-finder, which is not suitable for -other-window commands, I >think? That is why, AFAIU, when not called interactively, >find-file-at-point doesn't call ffap-file-finder at all, and therefore >there's no point in heeding ffap-require-prefix. Right? Hi Eli: Yes, that's what I expect, but it is actually offering the completion when using the other-window alternative. Just: emacs -Q M-x ffap-bindings M-: (setq ffap-require-prefix t) Write /somedir C-x C-f (you see: ~/) But C-x 4 f (you see /somedir) This seems to be related with the ffap-prompter called before the switch then? Best, -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* bug#61613: 30.0.50; ffap-other-window ignores ffap-require-prefix 2023-02-19 10:09 ` Ergus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors @ 2023-02-19 10:15 ` Eli Zaretskii 2023-02-19 21:32 ` Ergus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors 2023-02-19 21:43 ` Ergus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors 0 siblings, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2023-02-19 10:15 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Ergus; +Cc: 61613 > Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2023 11:09:04 +0100 > From: Ergus <spacibba@aol.com> > CC: 61613@debbugs.gnu.org > > emacs -Q > M-x ffap-bindings > M-: (setq ffap-require-prefix t) > Write /somedir > > C-x C-f (you see: ~/) > > But > > C-x 4 f (you see /somedir) > > This seems to be related with the ffap-prompter called before the switch then? Yes, I think so. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* bug#61613: 30.0.50; ffap-other-window ignores ffap-require-prefix 2023-02-19 10:15 ` Eli Zaretskii @ 2023-02-19 21:32 ` Ergus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors 2023-02-20 12:50 ` Eli Zaretskii 2023-02-19 21:43 ` Ergus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors 1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Ergus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors @ 2023-02-19 21:32 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 61613 On Sun, Feb 19, 2023 at 12:15:49PM +0200, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2023 11:09:04 +0100 >> From: Ergus <spacibba@aol.com> >> CC: 61613@debbugs.gnu.org >> >> emacs -Q >> M-x ffap-bindings >> M-: (setq ffap-require-prefix t) >> Write /somedir >> >> C-x C-f (you see: ~/) >> >> But >> >> C-x 4 f (you see /somedir) >> >> This seems to be related with the ffap-prompter called before the switch then? > >Yes, I think so. Hi Eli: So, what do you think? The fix may be to put the ffap-require-prefix condition in ffap-read-file-or-url directly or in ffap-prompter?? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* bug#61613: 30.0.50; ffap-other-window ignores ffap-require-prefix 2023-02-19 21:32 ` Ergus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors @ 2023-02-20 12:50 ` Eli Zaretskii 2023-02-20 15:49 ` Ergus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2023-02-20 12:50 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Ergus; +Cc: 61613 > Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2023 22:32:55 +0100 > From: Ergus <spacibba@aol.com> > Cc: 61613@debbugs.gnu.org > > On Sun, Feb 19, 2023 at 12:15:49PM +0200, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > >> Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2023 11:09:04 +0100 > >> From: Ergus <spacibba@aol.com> > >> CC: 61613@debbugs.gnu.org > >> > >> emacs -Q > >> M-x ffap-bindings > >> M-: (setq ffap-require-prefix t) > >> Write /somedir > >> > >> C-x C-f (you see: ~/) > >> > >> But > >> > >> C-x 4 f (you see /somedir) > >> > >> This seems to be related with the ffap-prompter called before the switch then? > > > >Yes, I think so. > > Hi Eli: > > So, what do you think? The fix may be to put the ffap-require-prefix > condition in ffap-read-file-or-url directly or in ffap-prompter?? I don't understand what you want to achieve by that, so please elaborate. ffap-file-finder's default value is a command that doesn't display the file in another window, so how will ffap-require-prefix help here? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* bug#61613: 30.0.50; ffap-other-window ignores ffap-require-prefix 2023-02-20 12:50 ` Eli Zaretskii @ 2023-02-20 15:49 ` Ergus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors 2023-02-20 17:01 ` Eli Zaretskii 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Ergus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors @ 2023-02-20 15:49 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 61613 On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 02:50:18PM +0200, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2023 22:32:55 +0100 >> From: Ergus <spacibba@aol.com> >> Cc: 61613@debbugs.gnu.org >> >> On Sun, Feb 19, 2023 at 12:15:49PM +0200, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> >> Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2023 11:09:04 +0100 >> >> From: Ergus <spacibba@aol.com> >> >> CC: 61613@debbugs.gnu.org >> >> >> >> emacs -Q >> >> M-x ffap-bindings >> >> M-: (setq ffap-require-prefix t) >> >> Write /somedir >> >> >> >> C-x C-f (you see: ~/) >> >> >> >> But >> >> >> >> C-x 4 f (you see /somedir) >> >> >> >> This seems to be related with the ffap-prompter called before the switch then? >> > >> >Yes, I think so. >> >> Hi Eli: >> >> So, what do you think? The fix may be to put the ffap-require-prefix >> condition in ffap-read-file-or-url directly or in ffap-prompter?? > >I don't understand what you want to achieve by that, so please >elaborate. ffap-file-finder's default value is a command that doesn't >display the file in another window, so how will ffap-require-prefix >help here? From the example above I expect that after: (setq ffap-require-prefix t) C-x 4 f You see ~/ instead of /somedir. Like when we do C-x C-f. As I said before, ffap-prompter is causing this because it is called before switching window. So ffap-file-finder is actually called at point before going to another window. And it does not have any ffap-require-prefix condition. My question is actually that. We need to put the ffap-require-prefix condition somewhere in ffap-read-file-or-url or ffap-prompter. Because this problem happens with the other-frame and other-tab variants as well. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* bug#61613: 30.0.50; ffap-other-window ignores ffap-require-prefix 2023-02-20 15:49 ` Ergus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors @ 2023-02-20 17:01 ` Eli Zaretskii 0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2023-02-20 17:01 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Ergus; +Cc: 61613 > Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2023 16:49:15 +0100 > From: Ergus <spacibba@aol.com> > Cc: 61613@debbugs.gnu.org > > >> So, what do you think? The fix may be to put the ffap-require-prefix > >> condition in ffap-read-file-or-url directly or in ffap-prompter?? > > > >I don't understand what you want to achieve by that, so please > >elaborate. ffap-file-finder's default value is a command that doesn't > >display the file in another window, so how will ffap-require-prefix > >help here? > > From the example above I expect that after: > > (setq ffap-require-prefix t) > C-x 4 f > > You see ~/ instead of /somedir. Like when we do C-x C-f. That's not what ffap-require-prefix does: (defcustom ffap-require-prefix nil "If set, reverses the prefix argument to `find-file-at-point'. This is nil so neophytes notice ffap. Experts may prefer to disable ffap most of the time." > As I said before, ffap-prompter is causing this because it is called > before switching window. So what we need is fix how the prompt is calculated, not what is the meaning of the prefix arg. > So ffap-file-finder is actually called at point before going to another > window. And it does not have any ffap-require-prefix condition. My > question is actually that. Once again, calling ffap-file-finder in this case is WRONG! We need a function that visits the file in another window, and ffap-file-finder doesn't. IOW, you are talking about a very different change to ffap-other-window. > We need to put the ffap-require-prefix condition somewhere in > ffap-read-file-or-url or ffap-prompter. Because this problem happens > with the other-frame and other-tab variants as well. I think we need to rewrite the interactive spec of those to do what you want. ffap-require-prefix is not related to this at all. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* bug#61613: 30.0.50; ffap-other-window ignores ffap-require-prefix 2023-02-19 10:15 ` Eli Zaretskii 2023-02-19 21:32 ` Ergus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors @ 2023-02-19 21:43 ` Ergus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors 2023-02-20 12:51 ` Eli Zaretskii 1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Ergus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors @ 2023-02-19 21:43 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 61613 BTW: Looking at the ffap code I think some minor update/cleanup will be beneficial any-way. Nothing very drastic, for example, isn't more consistent to make ffap-bindings a minor mode to allow load and unload? Or use the "interactive" in find-file-at-point to simplify the initial conditions there and remove the optional? Or update the global-set-key to use the new keymap-set thing? Or add autoload decorators to the interactive functions? WDYT? On Sun, Feb 19, 2023 at 12:15:49PM +0200, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2023 11:09:04 +0100 >> From: Ergus <spacibba@aol.com> >> CC: 61613@debbugs.gnu.org >> >> emacs -Q >> M-x ffap-bindings >> M-: (setq ffap-require-prefix t) >> Write /somedir >> >> C-x C-f (you see: ~/) >> >> But >> >> C-x 4 f (you see /somedir) >> >> This seems to be related with the ffap-prompter called before the switch then? > >Yes, I think so. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* bug#61613: 30.0.50; ffap-other-window ignores ffap-require-prefix 2023-02-19 21:43 ` Ergus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors @ 2023-02-20 12:51 ` Eli Zaretskii 0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2023-02-20 12:51 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Ergus; +Cc: 61613 > Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2023 22:43:26 +0100 > From: Ergus <spacibba@aol.com> > Cc: 61613@debbugs.gnu.org > > Looking at the ffap code I think some minor update/cleanup will be > beneficial any-way. > > Nothing very drastic, for example, isn't more consistent to make > ffap-bindings a minor mode to allow load and unload? Or use the > "interactive" in find-file-at-point to simplify the initial conditions > there and remove the optional? Or update the global-set-key to use the > new keymap-set thing? Or add autoload decorators to the interactive > functions? > > WDYT? It's hard to say without seeing the code you have in mind. Please post a patch, and let's take it from there. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
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