From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Boruch Baum Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#45582: 28: auto-fill final line of indented paragraph Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2021 07:25:21 -0500 Message-ID: <20210101122521.uzqz2o6nug6bow4y@E15-2016.optimum.net> References: <20201231232325.chb374puao3t4rze@E15-2016.optimum.net> <83a6ttgmgo.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="1858"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: NeoMutt/20180716 Cc: 45582@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 01 13:26:10 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kvJVS-0000Q9-8a for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Fri, 01 Jan 2021 13:25:24 +0100 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <83a6ttgmgo.fsf@gnu.org> X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:QAZCjb5zHwlORU3hqIyYmtLVjAphT89Y0nII/66SLrl3gQmYt0Z rnuRJjolq/I00+K434IbSSCcEfpU7Gw7DbGUNMiK7FJu05iTeEqY3unq2XL/ilUfH/TaniU Ykz9pA+bo9H0ApoHlXHCLtSZwZEqhve3fWgsUzvEKXRPInV4fg3FcN7cELMsj2f6emidcEc uq01VByi0E9xvo6U0SnZw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:9psbLRkVFLg=:9TlkAv6A0plRYb7L+iY1pr apZ6z/5WTuJ9M6rfXdfG62rStBe7GlTPrVPuaSzaEaQpIPtasVTzrSOTJ/pMjgRWlBWCvB5+x gnpWsxP7EzLSs4gGEQIPI1u2Vv3diBlJy+msdzsbNzsTqxJ17k86GyolG5Pg5z7w4Kc2dehds rfXvYCvYkPmOSMKoEmsG359vGnKPKf69temjAPN4/0EEVa+IS7ZFkkUHPpBeSML8tVwNqx3aY ieMvpjxeBEjsn76c1ykJVmRFayA8OFc9RHiYOj0a2SlgpkqmfgHKgittpv+pVd7isIhosFINq UJUo1y98wkyJ2qOC/n1nTuZWlC1k72H0JoH7BqbK12tFZQnv/cp4z3717WiK8GJ9EqPMZgrOH JYm0ugR7e3VKmc8RW8xjJN5a0pXrqPx2c6ejnxcFyhFdH8DYqwmGIyReTQZKwXBfd8hv+rITl mtNyk8Ls9JlfkkWQyWn04QqF1OI9Py5R5+HsLrkkp1kk8pKiMKy9kmXd/u5duFapim1OmRsvs A7ddHI81hXPH7eICbLS8vr6P+NlFF5s+KNjDWMYZthrPFof/LBB1+QU8X3jHc6UXohuZoyPEm s9e/OZly54vxRRXLq3mJ33ZCerG6a4T2SHBbSmPGkWhQ8reh+zuT/qLJHFF+ALz2aqUdqFB34 biIGC2KVAx3iN3geMy2ZZ4IPqsJ5D7DmS2cJS0nFEcYhYO0riPUQIRI5bU0TLVOI8cp58N3r1 Q1Xj2tKfxXZr9QkF5wLJe974oSF6hmMc7/wCLJx2+Np9gzrEKDxeby0r3TAgJfbHDif2Fs2x X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:197129 Archived-At: n 2021-01-01 09:12, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 18:23:25 -0500 > > From: Boruch Baum > > You are in Lisp Interaction mode, which has its own indentation rules. > Try this in Fundamental mode, and you will see the behavior you > expect, I think. > > IOW, I don't think there's a bug here. But if there is a bug, please > tell what behavior you expected and why. The default contents of the scratch buffer read: "This buffer is for text that is not saved ..." so any newcomer to emacs gets the indication that _text_ typed here will be treated as text (and yes lisp typed here will be treated as lisp), and people expect text paragraphs not to have their final line be out-dented *after* completion. Any newcomer to emacs will clearly consider this a bug. I also do consider it a bug. > To investigate this further, note that electric-indent-mode is ON That speaks to the choice of how to classify the bug, not whether it is a bug. Maybe you'll consider it a bug in that mode, or in auto-fill mode, or in lisp-interaction-mode, or in the setup of the scratch buffer, or in the relationship between those three modes, or in the default comment of that buffer, or in something else. I don't have a suggestion either way, only the observation that the behavior is unexpected, counter-intuitive, and annoying. =2D- hkp://keys.gnupg.net CA45 09B5 5351 7C11 A9D1 7286 0036 9E45 1595 8BC0