From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Vasilij Schneidermann Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#43775: 28.0.50; Feature request: to include EPUB reading into main Emacs Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2020 06:22:55 +0200 Message-ID: <20201005042255.GC1016@odonien.localdomain> References: <87eemfpmw9.fsf@posteo.net> <20201004044045.GK32715@protected.rcdrun.com> <20201004054834.GB1016@odonien.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="oTHb8nViIGeoXxdp" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="35930"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 43775@debbugs.gnu.org, philipk@posteo.net, bugs@gnu.support To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 05 06:24:10 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kPI2k-0009Fg-0F for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 05 Oct 2020 06:24:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51962 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kPI2i-0003bz-Cq for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 05 Oct 2020 00:24:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:44948) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kPI2c-0003bg-4M for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Oct 2020 00:24:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:35734) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kPI2b-0003Qr-Rc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Oct 2020 00:24:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kPI2b-0004PN-O9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Oct 2020 00:24:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Vasilij Schneidermann Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2020 04:24:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 43775 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 43775-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B43775.160187178816885 (code B ref 43775); Mon, 05 Oct 2020 04:24:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 43775) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Oct 2020 04:23:08 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47280 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kPI1j-0004OG-Nh for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 05 Oct 2020 00:23:07 -0400 Original-Received: from mout-p-101.mailbox.org ([80.241.56.151]:8642) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kPI1i-0004Na-0e for 43775@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 05 Oct 2020 00:23:06 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp1.mailbox.org (smtp1.mailbox.org [IPv6:2001:67c:2050:105:465:1:1:0]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-384) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mout-p-101.mailbox.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4C4SBW60WXzKmWT; Mon, 5 Oct 2020 06:22:59 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at heinlein-support.de Original-Received: from smtp1.mailbox.org ([80.241.60.240]) by spamfilter06.heinlein-hosting.de (spamfilter06.heinlein-hosting.de [80.241.56.125]) (amavisd-new, port 10030) with ESMTP id ql5cCEJZjFea; Mon, 5 Oct 2020 06:22:56 +0200 (CEST) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Rspamd-Score: -4.68 / 15.00 / 15.00 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: A69E717D9 X-Rspamd-UID: 454dfa X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:189783 Archived-At: --oTHb8nViIGeoXxdp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline > We've been having a discussion about how to make Emacs easier to > learn. I think one important way is to cease giving packages cryptic > names, and start giving each mode or package a name whose meaning will > be clear to everyone who sees it. That's a laudable goal, but it's hard to fulfill given the crutch of identifier prefixing Emacs Lisp is stuck with. The choice of a unique, yet short prefix is more important as chances are that someone else beat you to the punch and picked the obvious ones first. In my case, epub-mode.el (no adherence to prefixing) and ereader.el (ereader- prefix) were already taken. > What would you think of "E-Reader mode"? "E-Book View mode"? > (I am making a surmise here about what it does -- please forgive > me if I'm mistaken.) These are display names, they don't tell me how they'd map to the file name or package prefix. With "E-Reader mode" there would be high confusion potential with ereader.el and maybe even namespace collisions as it defines ereader-mode and other identifiers of that kind. "E-Book View mode" might work (ebook-view-mode?), but is overall too long to comfortably work with. How much I wish that Emacs Lisp were more like other Lisp dialects and offered you to write code without having to spell out package prefixes for every single identifier you write... --oTHb8nViIGeoXxdp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAABCAAdFiEE0dAcySl3bqM8O17WFmfJg6zCifoFAl96n5YACgkQFmfJg6zC ifpBiggAqSf2kYKbcd1imS5GbFkDdybPOLWPTkUmXwXJy+78/QVmxBNMuXyeQ4hv 8ebhydEw3yTS/SCOGlklSpYhV+FkCcFkoO5ibjvBoypFkjBvV4IPkjc9XzozJ3ez dFHPivWpCo4ftL7Ts2175AJxhuaNz8Disa6cRgIBckLWAB24CI1Wp55b1oDkBb71 VCQE/DPZeTD+ZQs+V4+y2I/ywR/VGKDKL3cDsVCOmLatYngV0WHDzqpT29tahf1m /uFiJq+O4DiT1oYlSpG/HCilelYYvMRWFxBT8y2jJhCV2yTecwi8Ecf0gZ6e3bzU QUkAV4JCblQng6qx5+0TztgG4gaplQ== =TCRv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --oTHb8nViIGeoXxdp--