From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#43636: 28.0.50; About Emacs, shall be descriptive and point to Info file Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2020 18:48:15 +0300 Message-ID: <20200927154815.GB13911@protected.rcdrun.com> References: <833633pvuw.fsf@gnu.org> <20200927065215.GB13324@protected.rcdrun.com> <83zh5bof2y.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="20545"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/1.14.0 (2020-05-02) Cc: 43636@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 27 17:49:20 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kMYvQ-0005Ds-7I for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2020 17:49:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60628 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kMYvP-0008Vl-86 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2020 11:49:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57140) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kMYv9-0008T5-Sr for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2020 11:49:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:38709) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kMYv7-0006Gc-MG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2020 11:49:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kMYv7-0005HR-L3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2020 11:49:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Jean Louis Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2020 15:49:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 43636 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 43636-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B43636.160122170820256 (code B ref 43636); Sun, 27 Sep 2020 15:49:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 43636) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Sep 2020 15:48:28 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50255 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kMYuZ-0005Ge-Py for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2020 11:48:28 -0400 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:58649) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kMYuX-0005GQ-GP for 43636@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2020 11:48:25 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([::ffff:154.228.43.120]) (AUTH: PLAIN securesender, TLS: TLS1.2,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 0000000000081F4E.000000005F70B442.000069B0; Sun, 27 Sep 2020 08:48:18 -0700 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <83zh5bof2y.fsf@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:189143 Archived-At: * Eli Zaretskii [2020-09-27 10:27]: > > Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2020 09:52:15 +0300 > > From: Jean Louis > > Cc: 43636@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > For me it is: general computing environment > > That sounds too general and abstract to be useful. E.g., I could say > the same about any modern OS. Yes, it is too general for public. I am using Emacs to make applications within Emacs. We can see that Tetris, Pong and other games can be made within Emacs, so it is foundation for development. Maybe Emacs does not fit anywhere into any known group, it may be unique. It is used as IDE: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrated_development_environment What I wish to say, it is platform for development of applications that run within Emacs. Maybe it is not common to develop full applications in Emacs Lisp, but that is what it is for me. How to name it? Hard to say. Jean