From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Alan Third Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#32932: 27.0.50; render bugs on macOS Mojave Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2020 20:45:35 +0000 Message-ID: <20200127204535.GB33155@breton.holly.idiocy.org> References: <20191111181622.GA60950@breton.holly.idiocy.org> <20200125124401.GB10529@breton.holly.idiocy.org> <83muabpsgq.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="69224"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 32932@debbugs.gnu.org To: Robert Pluim Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 27 21:46:15 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1iwBGx-000HyV-6Q for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 27 Jan 2020 21:46:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50820 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iwBGw-0001Ks-7Z for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 27 Jan 2020 15:46:14 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:44532) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iwBGm-0001IZ-IV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jan 2020 15:46:05 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iwBGk-0002YO-23 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jan 2020 15:46:04 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:53113) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iwBGj-0002Y5-PC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jan 2020 15:46:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iwBGj-0007H2-MK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jan 2020 15:46:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Alan Third Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2020 20:46:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 32932 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 32932-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B32932.158015794627938 (code B ref 32932); Mon, 27 Jan 2020 20:46:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 32932) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jan 2020 20:45:46 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59086 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iwBGU-0007GY-Cg for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jan 2020 15:45:46 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-wm1-f51.google.com ([209.85.128.51]:36383) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iwBGR-0007GK-LR for 32932@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jan 2020 15:45:45 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-wm1-f51.google.com with SMTP id p17so13850wma.1 for <32932@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 27 Jan 2020 12:45:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20161025; h=sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to; bh=MU32r3CHNLaH61tPomMQZp/+NejLFON+v67kOSpcXAQ=; b=V6f94XwkcyWaf2/7LbSjj1rBGWOk+/hjwmBcXvVtNeZPKCOMBENdDYSGdR9Go5aueM mr0yLV9ROvI6sVakJtBY3FcYEhs/g0tuHYrbTvlizygfqZegU+L2FUp9vf+lcsx26qGn 1n0xIkP47z6uKZlQQYcWx4rH+xQmZKKIar+0Gp8NyOk63vWfx58VTuv1iB+s/9R6Epf7 7EuhbRdjSkZUM6uO6xlqPJdYobkKkfH01sta4o37NI21GCF2H5CAm0efBciEKkDy+Mws Xc3NZDfh9hgvJXwqc95fjnJmfLLCmQIyrCj57PslRVI7hDh9GmCPz27XyK0ry+I+tK0T ifwg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id :references:mime-version:content-disposition :content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to; bh=MU32r3CHNLaH61tPomMQZp/+NejLFON+v67kOSpcXAQ=; b=AV4I/VgCBG6xCwF64/r10CvPqPt3cUjgHxOUxOOOY1Fy6FbjX+y3Ei8/mT9JAOQ4lz jfW9MJh++50sJhy2SYydhaJjFkoRQb6QbQnu1lmZBueIjMjL5E4kCwafGDmOBJNlnuJX IZYxD5Se6zVHu4TBgJs5aj1jlhBbU0HZqxc5rYCam6U9McGPnlj4VGf1Dxr/njkjFdsh gQ8BiWoyxPtUZdPJx72v7Io/6NDI8qddUW5aQhVXHTwMtZQBbipm9rd5QTQgU3ipBfWv pEzvZjE//rVFU03jCU/RZHNFB9qrCRbUzE/MQ90PKYZPt+NAAVOj6AESGt9vEuno6gl7 g2LA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWtqkzcEG85tCh2gaY6fk9XamqMFTOv6M/vrdbpaK2oJjQ7WrV4 lARB/2rke/6rY0lXQGl1kqw= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxC5Cvkbv6pKYAoFVefNsG1fVTUPm2qE52zyfP6J8dq9b6pabpTDGHJrVHftylKfuxu0xBE4Q== X-Received: by 2002:a7b:cae9:: with SMTP id t9mr489928wml.186.1580157937728; Mon, 27 Jan 2020 12:45:37 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from breton.holly.idiocy.org (ip6-2001-08b0-03f8-8129-c952-042c-63d5-ffbd.holly.idiocy.org. [2001:8b0:3f8:8129:c952:42c:63d5:ffbd]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id p5sm21836339wrt.79.2020.01.27.12.45.36 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 27 Jan 2020 12:45:37 -0800 (PST) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:175336 Archived-At: On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 12:06:32PM +0100, Robert Pluim wrote: > >>>>> On Sat, 25 Jan 2020 15:37:41 +0200, Eli Zaretskii said: > > >> Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2020 12:44:01 +0000 > >> From: Alan Third > >> Cc: 32932@debbugs.gnu.org > >> > >> So we have a trade off here of slower performance, which may or may > >> not be an issue, against drawing anomalies. I’m beginning to feel it’s > >> probably better to just get rid of the drawing issues and live with > >> the performance hit. I know that for me the performance difference is > >> not going to be noticeable at all. > > Eli> I think your tendency is the correct way of handling this issue: first > Eli> be correct, then fast. > > The redraw problems have been starting to annoy me recently. Iʼll take > correctness over speed as well. OK, so I think we’re agreed to switch to the scratch/ns/draw-to-bitmap branch. Obviously we’re too late for Emacs 27, but should we wait until the Emacs 27 release process has completed or just merge it into master now? > (Iʼve not found any inspired solution to the speed issue. I *have* > found various ways to kill Emacs, though :-) ) Sounds familiar... ;) -- Alan Third