From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Roland Winkler" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#2975: texinfo-master-menu and emacs.texi Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 01:48:20 -0600 Message-ID: <20193.48452.578669.370574@gargle.gargle.HOWL> References: <20191.48632.665251.448872@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <20191.55423.572257.75919@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <877h27gxh2.fsf@gmail.com> <20193.1889.937384.407090@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <8739cuhohm.fsf@gmail.com> <83wra6am86.fsf@gnu.org> <20111208195957.GA19297@headley> <20193.9247.697042.440983@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <83pqfymcey.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1323416957 11651 80.91.229.12 (9 Dec 2011 07:49:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 07:49:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: stepnem@gmail.com, 2975@debbugs.gnu.org, karl@freefriends.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 09 08:49:13 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RYvCi-0007Gi-2E for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 09 Dec 2011 08:49:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43995 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RYvCh-0001PW-D7 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 09 Dec 2011 02:49:11 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:56694) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RYvCf-0001PR-Na for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Dec 2011 02:49:10 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RYvCe-0005kW-Gw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Dec 2011 02:49:09 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:59240) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RYvCe-0005kR-FS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Dec 2011 02:49:08 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RYvDV-00088Y-Ox for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Dec 2011 02:50:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: "Roland Winkler" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2011 07:50:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 2975 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 2975-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B2975.132341696031219 (code B ref 2975); Fri, 09 Dec 2011 07:50:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 2975) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Dec 2011 07:49:20 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RYvCp-00087T-VU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 09 Dec 2011 02:49:20 -0500 Original-Received: from essmail.ess.niu.edu ([131.156.1.18]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RYvCn-00087L-Sc for 2975@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 09 Dec 2011 02:49:18 -0500 Original-Received: from regnitz (lukas.physics.niu.edu [131.156.85.221]) by essmail.ess.niu.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pB97mKmK014912; Fri, 9 Dec 2011 01:48:21 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <83pqfymcey.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer: VM 8.2 trial under 24.0.90.2 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2011 02:50:01 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:54833 Archived-At: On Fri Dec 9 2011 Eli Zaretskii wrote: > I tried to explain that already, in my original mail: they are not > needed if you structure your Texinfo source according to the rules > described in "(texinfo)makeinfo Pointer Creation". > > Most manuals should have no problems being structured like that (the > Emacs User Manual and Emacs Lisp Manual are actually structured > according to those rules), but some specialized uses of Texinfo cannot > be limited to tree-like structure, or don't want to use sectioning > commands (@chapter, @section, etc.) or menus, or want to order the > nodes in some special way that defeats the automatic generation of > node pointers. For these, you must explicitly have the Next, Prev, Up > pointers in Texinfo. OK, thanks a lot. For me, this is an important clarification. Roland