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From: Ergus via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: andreyorst@gmail.com, 37774@debbugs.gnu.org,
	Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
Subject: bug#37774: 27.0.50; new :extend attribute broke visuals of all themes and other packages
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2019 22:29:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191016202908.tmcir2v56gols45e@Ergus> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83o8ygcvb0.fsf@gnu.org>

On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 11:03:15PM +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> From: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
>> Cc: spacibba@aol.com,  andreyorst@gmail.com,  37774@debbugs.gnu.org
>> Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2019 22:46:55 +0300
>>
>> > I'm not sure I understand: the region face is defined to be extended
>> > beyond EOL.  How does custom-set-faces enter this picture, and why did
>> > you need to do anything about the customized faces?
>>
>> The region face customized long ago in the init file
>> has no ':extend t' face attribute, e.g.
>>
>> (custom-set-faces
>>  '(region ((((class color) (background light)) (:background "gray90"))))
>
>So maybe we should modify custom-set-faces to preserve the :extend
>attribute?  Would that solve the problem?
>
>> >> Soon I tired fixing their customizations one by one manually,
>> >
>> > Which other faces needed to be "fixed", how, and why?
>>
>> All diff faces and faces that have a distinct background color
>> like 'comint-highlight-input' (should extend to window edge
>> to help locating visually the command line in shell buffers),
>> 'org-block' (because it highlights code blocks), 'xref-file-header'
>> for the same reason as diff faces, i.e. faces that highlights blocks.
>
>I don't think I agree.  I'm not convinced by the reasons, and I find
>the new appearance not worse (and sometimes better) than the old.
>
>I think the objections are mostly because of the surprising new
>appearance.
>
Agree. I also asked in the emacs telegram group and in general many
people prefer that "the selection looks like in vim"

>> All complaints are only about extending background colors to EOL.
>
>We've been discussing this only for a day.  So whether all the
>complaints are about the background remains to be seen.  It could be
>because most of our faces only specify colors, for example.
>
The mode maintainers (like diff mode) will update their mode's faces if
they find that more convenient.

>> >> This screenshot demonstrates how badly broken these blocks are now
>> >> in diff-mode that it makes harder to read diffs:
>> >
>> > I'm sorry, but I don't see why it is broken or hard to read.
>>
>> Because there is no distinctive rectangular header anymore,
>> and no diff hunk blocks.
>
>Sorry, I don't think I follow: how do you mean there's no distinctive
>header and no diff hunk blocks?  I see them quite clearly.
>
>> >> Ideally to be more nice-looking, background colors in such faces should be
>> >> extended to the column defined e.g. by display-fill-column-indicator-column.
>> >
>> > That would be ugly if the line's text extends beyond the fill-column,
>> > no?  Also, it would look even uglier with variable-pitch fonts.
>>
>> Extending to the fill-column could be an optional feature.
>
>But above you mention it as the default.  If it's an option, then it
>cannot be a solution to the problems we are discussing.





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Thread overview: 170+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-16  7:00 bug#37774: 27.0.50; new :extend attribute broke visuals of all themes and other packages Andrey Orst
2019-10-16  7:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-16  8:12   ` Andrey Orst
2019-10-16 11:05     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-16 14:20       ` Stefan Kangas
2019-10-16 16:25         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-16  8:59   ` Michael Heerdegen
2019-10-16  9:17     ` martin rudalics
2019-10-16 11:26     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-16 11:38       ` Michael Heerdegen
2019-10-16 12:59         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-16 11:10   ` Ergus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2019-10-16 11:17     ` Andrey Orst
2019-10-16 11:41       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-16 12:08         ` Andrey Orst
2019-10-16 13:05           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-16 11:42     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-16 13:18       ` Ergus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2019-10-16 13:33         ` Andrey Orst
2019-10-16 14:21           ` Ergus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2019-10-16 17:33         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-16 18:13           ` Andrey Orst
2019-10-16 18:50             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-17 19:05             ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-10-17 20:38               ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-10-17 11:36           ` Michael Albinus
2019-10-17 12:38             ` Ergus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2019-10-17 13:05             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-17 16:18               ` Michael Albinus
2019-10-17 16:39                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-16 17:27     ` Juri Linkov
2019-10-16 18:07       ` Andrey Orst
2019-10-16 18:18         ` Juri Linkov
2019-10-16 18:54           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-16 19:52             ` Juri Linkov
2019-10-16 20:06               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-16 19:55             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-16 20:14               ` Juri Linkov
2019-10-17  6:18                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-17  8:52                   ` Andrey Orst
2019-10-17  8:59                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-17  9:20                       ` Andrey Orst
2019-10-17 12:54                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-17 13:40                           ` Andrey Orst
2019-10-17 14:02                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-17 14:13                               ` Andrey Orst
2019-10-17 14:38                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-17 14:02                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-10-17 16:20                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-17 16:46                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-10-17 17:20                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-17  8:25                 ` martin rudalics
2019-10-17 14:08                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-10-17 16:29                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-17 16:50                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-10-17 17:23                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-18 14:25                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-10-20 20:07                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-10-21  6:10                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-23 12:47                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-10-23 15:39                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-23 16:12                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-10-23 18:04                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-23 20:28                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-10-24 14:56                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-24 17:04                                         ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-10-17 22:22                   ` Juri Linkov
2019-10-18  5:28                     ` Andrey Orst
2019-10-18  6:53                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-19 20:53                       ` Juri Linkov
2019-10-20  6:03                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-20 15:42                           ` Juri Linkov
2019-10-20 16:59                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-21 21:29                         ` Juri Linkov
2019-10-18  8:25                     ` martin rudalics
2019-10-18 12:41                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-10-18 13:04                       ` Andrey Orst
2019-10-17 13:56                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-10-17 16:28                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-17 13:54             ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-10-16 18:46       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-16 19:46         ` Juri Linkov
2019-10-16 20:03           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-16 20:23             ` Juri Linkov
2019-10-16 20:37               ` Ergus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2019-10-17  6:43                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-17  6:40               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-16 20:29             ` Ergus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors [this message]
2019-10-17 14:12               ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-10-16 20:23           ` Ergus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2019-10-16 11:33 ` Andrey Orst
2019-10-16 15:30   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-31 16:06 ` Jonas Bernoulli
2019-10-31 16:48   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-06 16:26     ` Jonas Bernoulli
2019-11-06 17:06       ` martin rudalics
2019-11-07 13:58         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-07 15:41           ` Ergus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2019-11-07 17:10             ` martin rudalics
2019-11-07 21:57               ` Ergus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2019-11-08  9:20                 ` martin rudalics
2019-11-08 10:37                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-08 18:26                     ` martin rudalics
2019-11-08 19:14                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-08 11:39                   ` Ergus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2019-11-08 18:27                     ` martin rudalics
2019-12-05 16:48                   ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-12-05 18:02                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-05 19:05                       ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-12-05 19:19                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-05 18:22                     ` Ergus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2019-12-05 18:47                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-07 13:59       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-11 10:52         ` Jonas Bernoulli
2019-11-11 19:03           ` Jonas Bernoulli
2019-11-14 11:33             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-14 14:14               ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-14 14:41                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-14 22:42                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-15  8:08                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-15 23:50                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-16  8:09                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-16  8:17                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-23 23:20             ` Juri Linkov
2019-11-24 16:14               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-25 23:45                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-11-26 17:44                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-25  0:29               ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-25 16:00                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-25 23:50                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-26 17:43                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-02  0:05                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-12-02 16:21                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-03  0:01                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-12-03 16:21                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-05  1:44                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-12-05 15:47                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-06 15:44                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-12-06 16:18                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-06 16:58                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-12-06 17:31                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-07  1:06                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-12-07  7:53                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-07 17:06                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-12-07 17:53                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-07 18:55                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-12-07 19:14                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-08  0:42                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-12-08  3:32                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-08 10:39                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-12-08 15:50                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-08 21:20                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-12-09 12:59                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-09 14:07                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-12-09 14:42                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-09 15:24                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-12-09 15:42                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-10  0:20                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-12-10 15:57                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-11 23:02                                                                               ` Juri Linkov
2019-12-12  4:36                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-12 23:44                                                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2019-12-13  7:03                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-27 21:30                     ` Juri Linkov
2019-11-27 23:34                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-28 15:19                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-28 15:16                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-30 11:35                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-02  0:07                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-10-31 17:29   ` Dmitry Gutov

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