From: Ergus via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: andreyorst@gmail.com, 37774@debbugs.gnu.org,
Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
Subject: bug#37774: 27.0.50; new :extend attribute broke visuals of all themes and other packages
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2019 22:29:08 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191016202908.tmcir2v56gols45e@Ergus> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83o8ygcvb0.fsf@gnu.org>
On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 11:03:15PM +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> From: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
>> Cc: spacibba@aol.com, andreyorst@gmail.com, 37774@debbugs.gnu.org
>> Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2019 22:46:55 +0300
>>
>> > I'm not sure I understand: the region face is defined to be extended
>> > beyond EOL. How does custom-set-faces enter this picture, and why did
>> > you need to do anything about the customized faces?
>>
>> The region face customized long ago in the init file
>> has no ':extend t' face attribute, e.g.
>>
>> (custom-set-faces
>> '(region ((((class color) (background light)) (:background "gray90"))))
>
>So maybe we should modify custom-set-faces to preserve the :extend
>attribute? Would that solve the problem?
>
>> >> Soon I tired fixing their customizations one by one manually,
>> >
>> > Which other faces needed to be "fixed", how, and why?
>>
>> All diff faces and faces that have a distinct background color
>> like 'comint-highlight-input' (should extend to window edge
>> to help locating visually the command line in shell buffers),
>> 'org-block' (because it highlights code blocks), 'xref-file-header'
>> for the same reason as diff faces, i.e. faces that highlights blocks.
>
>I don't think I agree. I'm not convinced by the reasons, and I find
>the new appearance not worse (and sometimes better) than the old.
>
>I think the objections are mostly because of the surprising new
>appearance.
>
Agree. I also asked in the emacs telegram group and in general many
people prefer that "the selection looks like in vim"
>> All complaints are only about extending background colors to EOL.
>
>We've been discussing this only for a day. So whether all the
>complaints are about the background remains to be seen. It could be
>because most of our faces only specify colors, for example.
>
The mode maintainers (like diff mode) will update their mode's faces if
they find that more convenient.
>> >> This screenshot demonstrates how badly broken these blocks are now
>> >> in diff-mode that it makes harder to read diffs:
>> >
>> > I'm sorry, but I don't see why it is broken or hard to read.
>>
>> Because there is no distinctive rectangular header anymore,
>> and no diff hunk blocks.
>
>Sorry, I don't think I follow: how do you mean there's no distinctive
>header and no diff hunk blocks? I see them quite clearly.
>
>> >> Ideally to be more nice-looking, background colors in such faces should be
>> >> extended to the column defined e.g. by display-fill-column-indicator-column.
>> >
>> > That would be ugly if the line's text extends beyond the fill-column,
>> > no? Also, it would look even uglier with variable-pitch fonts.
>>
>> Extending to the fill-column could be an optional feature.
>
>But above you mention it as the default. If it's an option, then it
>cannot be a solution to the problems we are discussing.
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2019-10-16 7:00 bug#37774: 27.0.50; new :extend attribute broke visuals of all themes and other packages Andrey Orst
2019-10-16 7:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-16 8:12 ` Andrey Orst
2019-10-16 11:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-16 14:20 ` Stefan Kangas
2019-10-16 16:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-16 8:59 ` Michael Heerdegen
2019-10-16 9:17 ` martin rudalics
2019-10-16 11:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-16 11:38 ` Michael Heerdegen
2019-10-16 12:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-16 11:10 ` Ergus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2019-10-16 11:17 ` Andrey Orst
2019-10-16 11:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-16 12:08 ` Andrey Orst
2019-10-16 13:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-16 11:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-16 13:18 ` Ergus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2019-10-16 13:33 ` Andrey Orst
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2019-10-16 17:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-16 18:13 ` Andrey Orst
2019-10-16 18:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-17 19:05 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-10-17 20:38 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-10-17 11:36 ` Michael Albinus
2019-10-17 12:38 ` Ergus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2019-10-17 13:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-17 16:18 ` Michael Albinus
2019-10-17 16:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-16 17:27 ` Juri Linkov
2019-10-16 18:07 ` Andrey Orst
2019-10-16 18:18 ` Juri Linkov
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2019-10-16 19:52 ` Juri Linkov
2019-10-16 20:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2019-10-23 15:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2019-10-23 18:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-23 20:28 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-10-24 14:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-24 17:04 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-10-17 22:22 ` Juri Linkov
2019-10-18 5:28 ` Andrey Orst
2019-10-18 6:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-19 20:53 ` Juri Linkov
2019-10-20 6:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-20 15:42 ` Juri Linkov
2019-10-20 16:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-21 21:29 ` Juri Linkov
2019-10-18 8:25 ` martin rudalics
2019-10-18 12:41 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-10-18 13:04 ` Andrey Orst
2019-10-17 13:56 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-10-17 16:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-17 13:54 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-10-16 18:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-16 19:46 ` Juri Linkov
2019-10-16 20:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2019-12-08 0:42 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-12-08 3:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2019-12-08 21:20 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-12-09 12:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2019-12-10 15:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2019-12-13 7:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2019-11-28 15:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
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