From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eijiro Sumii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#36779: 25.1; mouse click not recognized for frames with large left position Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 16:33:56 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <20190816.163356.2263652830545554088.sumii@ecei.tohoku.ac.jp> References: <835zmyqxfz.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="9040"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: sumii@ecei.tohoku.ac.jp, 36779@debbugs.gnu.org To: eliz@gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 16 09:46:11 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hyWw6-0002EY-Tx for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 16 Aug 2019 09:46:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50822 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1hyWw5-0003qu-7r for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 16 Aug 2019 03:46:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39730) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1hyWlL-0008P1-JZ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Aug 2019 03:35:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hyWlK-0001Ew-Hl for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Aug 2019 03:35:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:44197) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hyWlK-0001En-EC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Aug 2019 03:35:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hyWlK-0003KX-Aw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Aug 2019 03:35:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eijiro Sumii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 07:35:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 36779 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 36779-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B36779.156594084212706 (code B ref 36779); Fri, 16 Aug 2019 07:35:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 36779) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Aug 2019 07:34:02 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53018 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hyWkL-0003Io-Ga for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Aug 2019 03:34:01 -0400 Original-Received: from eimail.ecei.tohoku.ac.jp ([130.34.41.153]:37352) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hyWkJ-0003Ib-5s for 36779@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Aug 2019 03:33:59 -0400 Original-Received: from eimail.ecei.tohoku.ac.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by postfix.imss71 (Postfix) with ESMTP id E21D52613A; Fri, 16 Aug 2019 16:33:56 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from localhost (g.sf.ecei.tohoku.ac.jp [130.34.192.34]) by eimail.ecei.tohoku.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D3E4A26133; Fri, 16 Aug 2019 16:33:56 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: <835zmyqxfz.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 6.7 on Emacs 25.1 / Mule 6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) X-TM-AS-MML: disable X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:165192 Archived-At: On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 12:07 AM Eli Zaretskii wrote: > I think PROBLEMS entries should be short and concise. They should > tell the reader what is the reason for the problem For this purpose, I think the first sentence suffices as a minimal summary, while the details can only be explained via the link. > and how to fix it Again I think this is clear from the first sentence (and an explicit workaround has also been added in the third sentence). > in a cookbook fashion. Sending the reader to read up a discussion of > a bug is inconsistent with doing that. Since the first (and third) sentenc(es) give(s) a cookbook summary, the details can best be left for the link (at least that was my intention when I wrote it, which I believe is clear from the explicit phrase "for details"). > Let's please not forget that > people who read PROBLEMS are already annoyed by the problem, they are > not in the mood of reading too much. They need TL;DR, the bottom > line. Again I believe the first (and third) sentenc(es) is/are the necessary and sufficient TL;DR, while the link is needed for people who want to know the details (at least I would be annoyed if there is only a few line summary and no more information). Best, Eijiro