From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Robert Alessi Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#36717: 25.3; greek.el: deprecated vowel+oxia combinations should be replaced with vowel+tonos counterparts Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2019 16:45:52 +0200 Message-ID: <20190719144552.GC11910@robertalessi.net> References: <20190718173252.GA3093@robertalessi.net> <20190718184700.GA4886@robertalessi.net> <20190718203203.GG4886@robertalessi.net> <83tvbiv7dp.fsf@gnu.org> <83h87iur38.fsf@gnu.org> <837e8eumks.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="205264"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Cc: Robert Pluim , 36717@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 19 16:46:10 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hoU9A-000rGq-0I for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 19 Jul 2019 16:46:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46068 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hoU99-0002xU-2b for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 19 Jul 2019 10:46:07 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53659) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hoU95-0002vS-Mq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jul 2019 10:46:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hoU94-0004SF-Fs for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jul 2019 10:46:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:47597) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hoU94-0004RY-9U for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jul 2019 10:46:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hoU94-0004oO-3P for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jul 2019 10:46:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Robert Alessi Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2019 14:46:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 36717 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 36717-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B36717.156354755718485 (code B ref 36717); Fri, 19 Jul 2019 14:46:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 36717) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jul 2019 14:45:57 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56418 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hoU8z-0004o4-69 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jul 2019 10:45:57 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp7.tech.numericable.fr ([82.216.111.43]:42240) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hoU8w-0004nu-Ve for 36717@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jul 2019 10:45:56 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (143.163.124.78.rev.sfr.net [78.124.163.143]) by smtp7.tech.numericable.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6438632CF; Fri, 19 Jul 2019 16:45:52 +0200 (CEST) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <837e8eumks.fsf@gnu.org> X-VR-SPAMSTATE: OK X-VR-SPAMSCORE: -100 X-VR-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduvddrieejgdekfecutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfpfgfogfftkfevteeunffgpdfqfgfvnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenucfjughrpeffhffvuffkfhggtggugfgjfgesthekredttderjeenucfhrhhomheptfhosggvrhhtucetlhgvshhsihcuoegrlhgvshhsihesrhhosggvrhhtrghlvghsshhirdhnvghtqeenucfrrghrrghmpehmohguvgepshhmthhpohhuthenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedt X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:163421 Archived-At: On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 05:26:59PM +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > We donʼt provide both forms within the same input method. > > I don't see why this would be a problem. We should provide the > variant expected by modern Greek in the input methods which target > modern Greek, and the variants for Classic Greek in input methods > which target that. Bonus points for providing at least some of the > other variants in each type of the input methods. > > > The question is whether we should provide both, or provide only > > tonos, since letter + oxia were allegedly added by mistake, hence > > standalone oxia should not be produced. Or we could change nothing. > > I don't see that everyone agrees it was a mistake, and in any case > both variants are still in usage. So I see no need to change > anything. In my opinion, providing oxeia in the first place for classic Greek was very right. The distinction must be kept as some fonts render tonoi and oxeiai very differently.