From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Robert Alessi Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#36717: 25.3; greek.el: deprecated vowel+oxia combinations should be replaced with vowel+tonos counterparts Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2019 12:03:04 +0200 Message-ID: <20190719100304.GC5734@robertalessi.net> References: <20190718173252.GA3093@robertalessi.net> <20190718184700.GA4886@robertalessi.net> <20190718203203.GG4886@robertalessi.net> <83tvbiv7dp.fsf@gnu.org> <20190719085824.GA3263@robertalessi.net> <20190719094226.GA5734@robertalessi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="99122"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: 36717@debbugs.gnu.org To: Robert Pluim Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 19 12:04:10 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hoPkI-000Pfl-Et for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 19 Jul 2019 12:04:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43710 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hoPkG-0004G6-GB for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 19 Jul 2019 06:04:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:47628) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hoPkD-0004Fm-5U for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jul 2019 06:04:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hoPkA-00053L-PX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jul 2019 06:04:04 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:46335) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hoPkA-000534-Jp for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jul 2019 06:04:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hoPkA-0007T2-D8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jul 2019 06:04:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Robert Alessi Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2019 10:04:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 36717 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 36717-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B36717.156353058928636 (code B ref 36717); Fri, 19 Jul 2019 10:04:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 36717) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jul 2019 10:03:09 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55156 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hoPjJ-0007Ro-Jr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jul 2019 06:03:09 -0400 Original-Received: from mx1.riseup.net ([198.252.153.129]:43970) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hoPjH-0007Rd-Bw for 36717@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jul 2019 06:03:07 -0400 Original-Received: from bell.riseup.net (bell-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.178]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A68441B940E; Fri, 19 Jul 2019 03:03:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Riseup-User-ID: 2E5085C4A8E664911FD214151DE17157B726FD0977D6742C598BF18008B0AA6B Original-Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bell.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4AD3C222689; Fri, 19 Jul 2019 03:03:06 -0700 (PDT) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:163383 Archived-At: On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 11:49:47AM +0200, Robert Pluim wrote: > Robert> Yes [2] would be interesting, I agree, but the purist also has a point. > > The purist can never prevent you from modifying your local copy of > greek.el :-) He surely can't! I have one question: do I have to modify the greek.el that is in /usr/share/emacs/xx.y/lisp/leim/quail or is there some place were to copy it under my own ~/.emacs.d? > Robert> Is that to say that the oxia variants are actually not recommended by > Robert> Unicode? Did you find information on this form unicode.org? > > says: > > Q: Which block of Greek characters should I use? > > A: The answer to that is that it depends what you are doing. But > generally, the basic Greek block plus the use of the generic combining > marks in the Combining Diacritical Marks block (U+0300..U+036F) is the > best approach to polytonic Greek support. Thank you. So I was not totally wrong in the first place. This statement also makes clear that what is said on digitalclassicist.org needs to be qualified. Robert