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From: Robert Alessi <alessi@robertalessi.net>
To: "Basil L. Contovounesios" <contovob@tcd.ie>
Cc: Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com>, 36717@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#36717: 25.3; greek.el: deprecated vowel+oxia combinations should be replaced with vowel+tonos counterparts
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2019 22:19:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190718201948.GC4886@robertalessi.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87blxr2okn.fsf@tcd.ie>

On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 07:19:04PM +0100, Basil L. Contovounesios wrote:
> Robert Alessi <alessi@robertalessi.net> writes:
> > Very well spotted.  Actually, the latter is the right one—that is:
> > Greek Tonos, U+0384—while the former, Greek Oxia (U+1FFD) belongs to
> > the group that was deprecated.  So it is the other way round: keep the
> > former, and make the latter go.
> 
> AFAICT the link you provided does not say anything about oxia the
> standalone character.

You are perfectly right.  If it were up to me I would recommend to
keep all those characters that were considered as duplicates.  I quote
here from this page[^1]:

     A false distinction was introduced to Unicode between the oxia
     (acute) and tonos, resulting in wrongly duplicated code
     points. See Greek Unicode duplicated vowels for a full
     discussion.

So strictly speaking, oxia alone is not yet removed from Unicode.  But
as alpha, epsilon, eta, iota, omicron upsilon omega with oxia were
allegedly deprecated *and removed* from the Greek extended range, I
would say that oxia alone does not have much to live.

[^1]: https://wiki.digitalclassicist.org/Unicode_for_ancient_languages
> 
> I'm still interested in seeing some documentation on this deprecation
> that is not from digitalclassicist.org.

That, according to digitalclassicist.org, of course.  I will try to
see if I find anything of relevance on unicode.org and report back.

Robert

> Thanks,
> 
> -- 
> Basil





  reply	other threads:[~2019-07-18 20:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-18  9:03 bug#36717: 25.3; greek.el: deprecated vowel+oxia combinations should be replaced with vowel+tonos counterparts Robert Alessi
2019-07-18 14:54 ` Robert Pluim
2019-07-18 17:32   ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-18 18:06     ` Robert Pluim
2019-07-18 18:47       ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-18 18:57         ` Robert Pluim
2019-07-18 20:14           ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-18 20:32           ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-19  6:57             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-19  8:27               ` Robert Pluim
2019-07-19  9:09                 ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-19 12:49                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-19 13:27                   ` Robert Pluim
2019-07-19 14:26                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-19 14:41                       ` Robert Pluim
2019-07-19 14:51                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-19 14:52                         ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-19 15:00                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-19 15:14                             ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-19 14:45                       ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-19  8:58               ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-19  9:26                 ` Robert Pluim
2019-07-19  9:42                   ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-19  9:49                     ` Robert Pluim
2019-07-19 10:03                       ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-19 11:49                         ` Robert Pluim
2019-07-19 13:32                           ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-19 12:54                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-19 13:00                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-19 13:31                           ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-19 14:27                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-16 13:59                               ` Stefan Kangas
2019-07-19 13:29                         ` Robert Pluim
2019-07-19 13:33                           ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-19 12:52                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-19  9:33                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-19  9:54                   ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-19 12:55                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-19 13:47                       ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-18 18:19     ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-07-18 20:19       ` Robert Alessi [this message]
2019-07-18 20:52         ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-07-18 18:16   ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-07-18 18:47     ` Robert Pluim
2019-07-18 20:27       ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-18 20:23     ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-19  9:40     ` Robert Pluim
2019-07-18 18:16 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-07-18 20:29   ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-19 12:40   ` Eli Zaretskii

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