From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan Mackenzie Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#36539: elec-pair.elc gets surreptitiously loaded (almost) unconditionally at start up. 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Current master branch, emacs -Q: elec-pair.elc has already been loaded at startup. It seems this is not intended - elec-pair.el is not loaded in loadup.el. The reason for this (almost) unconditional loading seems to be a `require' form in the `defined-derive-mode' for emacs-lisp-mode in .../progmodes/elisp-mode.el. This is not good. A decision should be taken as to whether elec-pair.elc should be loaded at start up, and if so, it should be part of the dump. If not, the `require' form in elisp-mode.el should be replaced by an `eval-after-load' form. -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).