From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, npostavs@gmail.com
Cc: 25111@debbugs.gnu.org, phillip.lord@russet.org.uk
Subject: bug#25111: (Inaccurate documentation of inhibit-modification-hooks)
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 12:52:49 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190624125249.GB4781@ACM> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83muirarzj.fsf@gnu.org>
Hello, Eli and Noam (but mainly Noam).
It's about time we finally got this matter tidied up, so...
On Sun, Jun 09, 2019 at 15:00:16 +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> OK, after re-reading the discussions and the code, I don't think we
> should make the incompatible change suggested by Alan. We haven't
> bound inhibit-modification-hooks to t in the text-property hooks since
> the day the code was written, 24 years ago, so it makes no sense to me
> to do that now. Let's document the exception and move on.
> Noam's last patch LGTM, with the single minor gotcha:
> > +When Emacs calls these functions, @code{inhibit-modification-hooks} is
> > +set to @code{nil}, unlike for change hooks.
> This is from the part that changes the "Special Properties" node, and
> it's inaccurate: we don't bind inhibit-modification-hooks to nil, we
> just leave it at its previous binding. This distinction is important
> in recursive calls, when the caller caused inhibit-modification-hooks
> to be bound to non-nil.
I've corrected this bit by saying that "Unlike with other similar hooks,
when Emacs calls these functions, `inhibit-modification-hooks' does _not_
get bound to non-`nil'".
I've also added bits to the descriptions of
insert-{in-front,behind}-hooks, the text property version of them,
documenting that inhibit-modification-hooks gets bound to non-nil.
[ .... ]
I think the changes as now formulated are right. Perhaps one or both of
you might like to give the following patch a quick review. Thanks!
diff --git a/doc/lispref/display.texi b/doc/lispref/display.texi
index 7e8abb0440..68f40b55d8 100644
--- a/doc/lispref/display.texi
+++ b/doc/lispref/display.texi
@@ -1752,9 +1752,12 @@ Overlay Properties
length is the number of characters deleted, and the post-change
beginning and end are equal.)
-If these functions modify the buffer, they should bind
-@code{inhibit-modification-hooks} to @code{t} around doing so, to
-avoid confusing the internal mechanism that calls these hooks.
+When these functions are called, @code{inhibit-modification-hooks} is
+bound to non-@code{nil}. If the functions modify the buffer, you
+might want to bind @code{inhibit-modification-hooks} to nil, so as to
+cause the change hooks to run for these modifications. However, doing
+this may call your own change hook recursively, so be sure to prepare
+for that. @xref{Change Hooks}.
Text properties also support the @code{modification-hooks} property,
but the details are somewhat different (@pxref{Special Properties}).
diff --git a/doc/lispref/text.texi b/doc/lispref/text.texi
index 2e7c497f57..95ed758914 100644
--- a/doc/lispref/text.texi
+++ b/doc/lispref/text.texi
@@ -3621,9 +3621,12 @@ Special Properties
hook will only be run when removing some characters, replacing them
with others, or changing their text-properties.
-If these functions modify the buffer, they should bind
-@code{inhibit-modification-hooks} to @code{t} around doing so, to
-avoid confusing the internal mechanism that calls these hooks.
+Unlike with other similar hooks, when Emacs calls these functions,
+@code{inhibit-modification-hooks} does @emph{not} get bound to
+non-@code{nil}. If the functions modify the buffer, you should
+consider binding this variable to non-@code{nil} to prevent any buffer
+changes running the change hooks. Otherwise, you must be prepared for
+recursive calls. @xref{Change Hooks}.
Overlays also support the @code{modification-hooks} property, but the
details are somewhat different (@pxref{Overlay Properties}).
@@ -3639,6 +3642,13 @@ Special Properties
beginning and end of the inserted text. The functions are called
@emph{after} the actual insertion takes place.
+When these functions are called, @code{inhibit-modification-hooks} is
+bound to non-@code{nil}. If the functions modify the buffer, you
+might want to bind @code{inhibit-modification-hooks} to nil, so as to
+cause the change hooks to run for these modifications. However, doing
+this may call your own change hook recursively, so be sure to prepare
+for that.
+
See also @ref{Change Hooks}, for other hooks that are called
when you change text in a buffer.
@@ -5650,5 +5660,8 @@ Change Hooks
a modification hook does not cause other modification hooks to be run.
If you do want modification hooks to be run in a particular piece of
code that is itself run from a modification hook, then rebind locally
-@code{inhibit-modification-hooks} to @code{nil}.
+@code{inhibit-modification-hooks} to @code{nil}. However, doing this
+may cause recursive calls to the modification hooks, so be sure to
+prepare for that (for example, by binding some variable which tells
+your hook to do nothing).
@end defvar
--
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-06-24 12:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-12-04 20:53 bug#25111: Phillip Lord
2016-12-05 15:33 ` bug#25111: Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <87wpfbpual.fsf@russet.org.uk>
2016-12-07 16:40 ` bug#25111: Phillip Lord
[not found] ` <WM!2f8d5bad87de09a0621b1f025704a97dd719ed1ae7d08e03f6b419e215cd51bc54917b522795d7421de3533c07950608!@mailhub-mx1>
2016-12-08 15:55 ` bug#25111: Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-09 17:17 ` bug#25111: Phillip Lord
2016-12-09 17:26 ` bug#25111: Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-11 22:11 ` bug#25111: Phillip Lord
2016-12-12 16:06 ` bug#25111: Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-19 20:31 ` bug#25111: (Inaccurate documentation of inhibit-modification-hooks) Alan Mackenzie
2019-05-25 12:39 ` Noam Postavsky
2019-05-25 13:44 ` Alan Mackenzie
2019-05-25 14:36 ` Noam Postavsky
2019-05-27 14:31 ` Alan Mackenzie
2019-06-03 19:15 ` Alan Mackenzie
2019-06-03 19:26 ` npostavs
2019-06-04 9:32 ` Alan Mackenzie
2019-06-04 14:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-09 12:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-09 20:45 ` Alan Mackenzie
2019-06-24 12:52 ` Alan Mackenzie [this message]
2019-06-24 22:48 ` Noam Postavsky
2019-06-25 9:17 ` Alan Mackenzie
2019-05-25 13:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-05 17:39 ` bug#25111: How modification-hooks let-bind inhibit-modification-hooks? Noam Postavsky
2016-12-05 18:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-09 19:34 ` Noam Postavsky
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