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From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
To: Noam Postavsky <npostavs@gmail.com>
Cc: 25111@debbugs.gnu.org, Phillip Lord <phillip.lord@russet.org.uk>
Subject: bug#25111: (Inaccurate documentation of inhibit-modification-hooks)
Date: Mon, 27 May 2019 14:31:09 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190527143109.GA5863@ACM> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87sgt28ut4.fsf@gmail.com>

Hello, Noam.

On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 10:36:55 -0400, Noam Postavsky wrote:
> Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> writes:

> >>> @@ -3621,9 +3621,14 @@ Special Properties

> >>> +When Emacs calls these functions, @code{inhibit-modification-hooks} is
> >>> +set to @code{nil}.

> >> As Phillip mentioned in the OP, Emacs in fact binds it to t.

> > Are you sure?  We're talking here about the text property (in which I
> > think inhibit-modification-hooks IS at nil) as opposed to the overlay
> > property (where inhibit-modification-hooks is bound to t).

> Oh, you're quite right.  Here's some test code:

[ .... ]


> Which produces this:

> mod-hook-text-prop (1 4), inhibit? nil
> mod-hook-change-fun (1 4), inhibit? t
> mod-hook-ov-prop (#<overlay from 1 to 5 in *test*> nil 1 4), inhibit? t
> mod-hook-change-fun (1 1 3), inhibit? t
> mod-hook-ov-prop (#<overlay from 1 to 2 in *test*> t 1 1 3), inhibit? t
> mod-hook-change-fun (1 1), inhibit? t
> mod-hook-change-fun (1 4 0), inhibit? t

> I think we need to emphasize the difference in this case, it's rather
> confusing.

Alternatively, we could perhaps regard the first of these results (for
modification-hooks) as a bug in the code, which seems like it ought to be
binding inhibit-modification-hooks to non-nil like the others.  Maybe we
should amend the code, even though this would be a jarring
incompatibility with previous Emacs versions.  Eli?

[ .... ]

> I've updated the patch based on your and Eli's feedback.

Yes, I agree that "confusing the internal mechanism" is unhelpful here.
Thanks for getting rid of it.

[ .... ]

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).





  reply	other threads:[~2019-05-27 14:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-12-04 20:53 bug#25111: Phillip Lord
2016-12-05 15:33 ` bug#25111: Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]   ` <87wpfbpual.fsf@russet.org.uk>
2016-12-07 16:40     ` bug#25111: Phillip Lord
     [not found]     ` <WM!2f8d5bad87de09a0621b1f025704a97dd719ed1ae7d08e03f6b419e215cd51bc54917b522795d7421de3533c07950608!@mailhub-mx1>
2016-12-08 15:55       ` bug#25111: Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-09 17:17         ` bug#25111: Phillip Lord
2016-12-09 17:26           ` bug#25111: Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-11 22:11             ` bug#25111: Phillip Lord
2016-12-12 16:06               ` bug#25111: Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-19 20:31                 ` bug#25111: (Inaccurate documentation of inhibit-modification-hooks) Alan Mackenzie
2019-05-25 12:39                   ` Noam Postavsky
2019-05-25 13:44                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2019-05-25 14:36                       ` Noam Postavsky
2019-05-27 14:31                         ` Alan Mackenzie [this message]
2019-06-03 19:15                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2019-06-03 19:26                             ` npostavs
2019-06-04  9:32                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2019-06-04 14:36                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-09 12:00                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-09 20:45                                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2019-06-24 12:52                                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2019-06-24 22:48                                       ` Noam Postavsky
2019-06-25  9:17                                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2019-05-25 13:49                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-05 17:39 ` bug#25111: How modification-hooks let-bind inhibit-modification-hooks? Noam Postavsky
2016-12-05 18:37   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-09 19:34 ` Noam Postavsky

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