From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
To: "João Távora" <joaotavora@gmail.com>
Cc: bea@klebe.blog, 33794@debbugs.gnu.org,
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Subject: bug#33794: 26.1; electric-pair-mode breaks auto-newline minor mode of cc-mode
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2018 21:50:42 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181221215042.GC16032@ACM> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALDnm501UKMaNGvNAs7wGKM9wOvJBOfO=2XK4s+a3NPetX0hcQ@mail.gmail.com>
Hello, João.
On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 13:57:21 +0000, João Távora wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 1:48 PM Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> wrote:
> > Hello, Beatrix.
> > In article <mailman.5894.1545155289.1284.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> you wrote:
> > > When using cc-mode, turning on electric-pair-mode causes the
> > > auto-newline minor mode to stop inserting newlines where expected. This
> > > is relevant to the formatting of C# code with the Allman/BSD brace style
> > > in particular, though it would be nice if these modes specifically did
> > > work together.
> > Yes. What is happening, from the viewpoint of CC Mode, is that on
> > inserting a {, electric-pair-mode is prematurely inserting its }, before
> > the processing for the { is complete. Also, due to the way } gets
> > inserted, the CC Mode processing for the } isn't done at all.
> > @João: I think electric pair mode is intended to simulate the manual
> > insertion of a matching paren, etc., when a paren, etc., is typed.
> > Would it therefore be possible, rather than having a crude insertion on
> > post-self-insert-hook, to use something like post-command-hook to allow
> > the insertion of the { first to complete? Then, rather than using the
> > brutal self-insert-command for } in electric-pair--insert, use the
> > command to which the key } is bound? This should allow CC Mode's
> > auto-newline facility to work, and also more closely simulate the manual
> > insertion of the closing delimiter.
> I don't know. We better ask Stefan (CC'ed) who I believe designed the
> original strategy of inserting closing delimiters in the previous
> electric-pair-mode. That didn't change in my redesign.
> FWIW, I think cc-mode should rather use post-self-insert-hook instead
> of redefining commands for keys whose expected behaviour is
> (with minor variations presumably covered by abundant hookage)
> self-insertion. If you place your specific cc-mode processing late
> enough in the hook then its insertion will be "complete" for all
> practical purposes.
I think I've worked out what I don't like about such (ab)use of
post-self-insert-hook. There are 113 uses of self-insert-command in our
sources, and it seems most of them expect self-insert-command to do just
that, with possible things like refilling. If one makes additional
buffer changes, one will foul up many of these 113 uses of s-i-c.
It is a bit like before/after-change-functions. Although it is not
written in tablets of stone anywhere (as fas as I'm aware), there's an
understanding that you don't make buffer changes inside b/a-c-f. The
same should apply to post-self-insert-hook, which is a sort of change
hook, for the same reasons.
> João
--
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).
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Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-12-18 17:38 bug#33794: 26.1; electric-pair-mode breaks auto-newline minor mode of cc-mode Beatrix Klebe
[not found] ` <mailman.5894.1545155289.1284.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-12-21 13:48 ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-12-21 13:57 ` João Távora
2018-12-21 14:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-12-21 16:00 ` Beatrix Klebe
2018-12-21 18:49 ` João Távora
2018-12-21 19:06 ` Beatrix Klebe
2018-12-21 19:20 ` João Távora
2018-12-21 19:24 ` João Távora
2018-12-21 19:43 ` Beatrix Klebe
2018-12-22 1:08 ` João Távora
2018-12-22 2:16 ` João Távora
2018-12-22 2:41 ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-12-22 3:22 ` João Távora
2018-12-22 4:41 ` Beatrix Klebe
2018-12-22 10:02 ` João Távora
2018-12-22 12:33 ` Alan Mackenzie
2019-01-01 19:27 ` Alan Mackenzie
2019-01-15 16:10 ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-12-21 20:11 ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-12-22 0:45 ` João Távora
2018-12-22 10:20 ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-12-22 13:47 ` João Távora
2018-12-21 21:50 ` Alan Mackenzie [this message]
2018-12-22 16:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-12-22 16:34 ` Beatrix Klebe
2018-12-22 17:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-12-22 17:34 ` Beatrix Klebe
2018-12-22 21:19 ` João Távora
2018-12-22 22:15 ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-12-22 22:55 ` João Távora
2018-12-23 20:21 ` Alan Mackenzie
[not found] ` <20181223202143.GA6658@ACM>
2018-12-23 21:38 ` João Távora
2018-12-23 21:46 ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-12-28 12:44 ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-12-23 14:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-12-23 14:48 ` Alan Mackenzie
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