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From: Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: Alain Schneble <a.s@realize.ch>,
	20623@debbugs.gnu.org, Simon Ledergerber <sledergerber@gmx.net>
Subject: bug#20623: XML and HTML files with encoding/charset="utf-8" declaration loose BOM; Coding system is reset from utf-8-with-signature to utf-8 on save
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2018 11:47:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180808094748.GA26509@zira.vinc17.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvk1y2ct0w.fsf-monnier+emacsbugs@gnu.org>

On 2017-12-04 12:38:57 -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > Now reported with "fix this or get removed from the distribution"
> > severity at <https://bugs.debian.org/883434>.
> 
> I'm curious to see if the OP's "grave" severity settings will stick.
> "Grave" is defined in https://www.debian.org/Bugs/Developer#severities as:
> 
>     makes the package in question unusable or mostly so, or causes data
>     loss, or introduces a security hole allowing access to the accounts
>     of users who use the package.
> 
> The only part that could arguably apply is "causes data loss", but even
> that is stretching the meaning of those words, I think.

Actually there's the issue that the coding system (in Emacs sense)
is changed, but also the fact that this change is invisible to the
user (mainly because the BOM is usually not visible), which makes
the issue even worse. Basically, this is invisible data corruption.
Even though only two bytes are removed, this introduces breakage in
other applications, and it can take much time to the user to find
the cause.

Emacs should not change the coding system when not needed, and when
it needs to, it must make sure to have a confirmation from the user.

-- 
Vincent Lefèvre <vincent@vinc17.net> - Web: <https://www.vinc17.net/>
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Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / AriC project (LIP, ENS-Lyon)





  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-08-08  9:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-21 18:50 bug#20623: XML and HTML files with encoding/charset="utf-8" declaration loose BOM; Coding system is reset from utf-8-with-signature to utf-8 on save Simon Ledergerber
2015-05-21 19:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]   ` <555E44EB.6070604@gmx.net>
2015-05-22  7:11     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-22 13:21       ` Simon Ledergerber
2016-10-12 21:44         ` Alain Schneble
2017-12-04 16:54           ` Glenn Morris
2017-12-04 17:38             ` Stefan Monnier
2017-12-04 20:28               ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-04 21:08                 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-12-10 19:17                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-15  9:08                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-01 18:07                     ` bug#20623: XML and HTML files with encoding/charset="utf-8" declaration lose " Glenn Morris
2018-08-01 18:41                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-07 19:14                         ` Glenn Morris
2018-08-11 12:45                     ` bug#20623: XML and HTML files with encoding/charset="utf-8" declaration loose " Stefan Monnier
2018-08-11 13:54                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-12  0:04                         ` Stefan Monnier
2018-08-12 19:07                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-08  9:47               ` Vincent Lefevre [this message]
2018-08-08 14:45                 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-08-11  9:15                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-11 10:13                   ` Vincent Lefevre
2018-08-11 10:45                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-11 15:41                       ` Vincent Lefevre
2018-08-11 16:27                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-12  1:34                           ` Vincent Lefevre
2018-08-12  0:11                         ` Stefan Monnier
2018-08-12  0:58                           ` Vincent Lefevre
2015-05-22 15:22   ` Stefan Monnier
2015-05-22 15:26     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-22 21:51       ` Stefan Monnier
2015-05-23  6:44         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-23 17:11           ` Simon Ledergerber
2015-05-23 17:20             ` Eli Zaretskii

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