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Dowling" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#29357: Cut and paste problems on Linux on a text virtual console no longer works Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2017 17:09:35 +0100 Message-ID: <20171119160935.GA4532@moocow> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1511107816 5839 195.159.176.226 (19 Nov 2017 16:10:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2017 16:10:16 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.1 (2017-09-22) To: 29357@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 19 17:10:09 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eGSAa-000156-46 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 19 Nov 2017 17:10:08 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53517 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eGSAh-0006Ly-H1 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 19 Nov 2017 11:10:15 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42172) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eGSAZ-0006Lo-6m for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Nov 2017 11:10:08 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eGSAU-0004qF-V0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Nov 2017 11:10:07 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:39018) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eGSAU-0004q5-Pf for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Nov 2017 11:10:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eGSAU-0003mF-KE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Nov 2017 11:10:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: "Dr. Michael L. 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I therefore send it using an appropriately configured "mutt" as user agent. The Report: If I use X-windows, there is no problem with cutting and pasting from outside an emacs buffer into an emacs buffer and vice versa. But this no longer works when in a text console. When on a Linux virtual console, pasting into an emacs buffer results in the message: "No selection available" in the mini-buffer. Conversely, marking text in an emacs buffer and pa= sting into a virtual console yields no error, but it does not paste. I have been using Linux and emacs for decades, and this used to work unt= il recently, but just how recently, I cannot say, probably a month or two. I've searched the Internet, but the only mention of something simil= ar said that it was fundamentally impossible, but this is not true. I've been using that f= eature for years. (I had the impression that the author was using Windows and wanted to cut and paste to and to and from a DOS box.) I use Arch Linux with the latest packages updated every day. Nothing sel= f compiled. My tests were as follows: 1. Try emacs -q -- still does not work. 2. Set up a new user with no special environment, just out of the box.= No .emacs file, and no bash init files. Same behaviour. 3. Now the strange bit: login using my normal userid "mike" and chan= ge user to the newly created user "joe", and cut and paste works for joe. ("su - joe" wa= s used for that.) 4. Logout, and log back in again as joe (no su -; joe logs in from the text terminal), cut and paste no longer works for joe, But change us= er user using "su - mike", and it works for mike! 5. Is it a shell problem? Change shell to zsh, same behaviour. 6. Login as mike or joe, and call the bash again. Now I'm not in a = login shell, but same behaviour, no cut and paste. I cannot say for sure that this is an emacs problem. It could be a Linu= x problem, or an Arch Linux problem. It might even be a shell problem, although with the a= bove tests that seem unlikely. 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Dowling Gau=C3=9Fstr. 27 38106 Braunschweig Germany --=20 Dr. Michael L. Dowling Gau=C3=9Fstr. 27 38106 Braunschweig Germany