From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Alan Mackenzie Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#28280: Maximally unhelpful diagnostic message. Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 21:11:06 +0000 Message-ID: <20170831211106.GB4331@ACM> References: <20170829184140.GA4339@ACM> <20170829201557.GB4339@ACM> <0ia82gu94l.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1504214129 28875 195.159.176.226 (31 Aug 2017 21:15:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 21:15:29 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.2 (2016-11-26) Cc: 28280@debbugs.gnu.org To: Glenn Morris Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 31 23:15:20 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dnWnz-0006pC-Lb for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2017 23:15:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57536 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dnWo6-0008RZ-Lo for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2017 17:15:22 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49470) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dnWnr-0008Jk-RI for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2017 17:15:13 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dnWnm-0004xP-Tv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2017 17:15:07 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:57735) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dnWnm-0004xA-Pv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2017 17:15:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dnWnl-0002qN-Vk for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2017 17:15:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Alan Mackenzie Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 21:15:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 28280 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 28280-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B28280.150421407510881 (code B ref 28280); Thu, 31 Aug 2017 21:15:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 28280) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Aug 2017 21:14:35 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38182 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dnWnL-0002pR-65 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2017 17:14:35 -0400 Original-Received: from ocolin.muc.de ([193.149.48.4]:65433 helo=mail.muc.de) by debbugs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dnWnJ-0002pJ-IU for 28280@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2017 17:14:34 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 67179 invoked by uid 3782); 31 Aug 2017 21:14:32 -0000 Original-Received: from acm.muc.de (p548C6E50.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.140.110.80]) by colin.muc.de (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Thu, 31 Aug 2017 23:14:31 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 6699 invoked by uid 1000); 31 Aug 2017 21:11:06 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <0ia82gu94l.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.12 (Macallan) X-Primary-Address: acm@muc.de X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:136425 Archived-At: Hello, Glenn. On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 15:51:38 -0400, Glenn Morris wrote: > Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > Yes, but that's a separate problem from the essence of the bug report. > So M-x toggle-debug-on-error, like with any error. Thanks, I'll try that when the error comes up again. -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).