From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Alan Mackenzie Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#28242: Batch mode compiling: Error messages are displayed with "invalid character" glyph bounding symbols. Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2017 19:04:04 +0000 Message-ID: <20170827190404.GJ3520@ACM> References: <20170827091654.GA3520@ACM> <20170827170504.GG3520@ACM> <36f4834d-4990-d22f-7b2b-78ebda9b7856@cs.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1503860834 5670 195.159.176.226 (27 Aug 2017 19:07:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2017 19:07:14 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.2 (2016-11-26) Cc: 28242@debbugs.gnu.org To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 27 21:07:10 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dm2tk-0000zy-2k for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 27 Aug 2017 21:07:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34454 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dm2tr-0008Kk-1n for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 27 Aug 2017 15:07:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48513) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dm2tm-0008Kc-36 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Aug 2017 15:07:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dm2ti-000565-27 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Aug 2017 15:07:06 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:49628) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dm2th-00055u-Ue for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Aug 2017 15:07:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dm2th-0000nC-LR for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Aug 2017 15:07:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Alan Mackenzie Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2017 19:07:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 28242 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 28242-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B28242.15038608013020 (code B ref 28242); Sun, 27 Aug 2017 19:07:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 28242) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Aug 2017 19:06:41 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58309 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dm2tN-0000me-7i for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 27 Aug 2017 15:06:41 -0400 Original-Received: from ocolin.muc.de ([193.149.48.4]:61049 helo=mail.muc.de) by debbugs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dm2tL-0000mV-7q for 28242@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 27 Aug 2017 15:06:39 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 36463 invoked by uid 3782); 27 Aug 2017 19:06:37 -0000 Original-Received: from acm.muc.de (p548C7E25.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.140.126.37]) by colin.muc.de (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Sun, 27 Aug 2017 21:06:37 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 14576 invoked by uid 1000); 27 Aug 2017 19:04:04 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <36f4834d-4990-d22f-7b2b-78ebda9b7856@cs.ucla.edu> X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.12 (Macallan) X-Primary-Address: acm@muc.de X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:136277 Archived-At: Hello, Paul. On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 11:43:16 -0700, Paul Eggert wrote: > Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 12:47:21 -0400, Glenn Morris wrote: > >> If your system has the same issue with gcc warnings (and if you choose > >> not to answer the question, a cynic like me will assume it does), ... > > It does. > Then you'll need to fix your setup to get GCC working, as well as Emacs. I will get around to that in good time. It remains a problem for all those working with the standard Linux font. > > Diagonal lines are the font's representation > > of ASCII grave (0x60), and arise from typing the key to the left of "1". > So this font cannot even display ASCII? It can. I suggest you try it out first, before making such wild statements. > Another annoyance. While you're fixing that you might as well fix the > curved quotes. > I don't see this as rising to something that we need to worry about. Emacs is > behaving consistently with other programs. There was a time when Emacs was a leader, not a follower. Seems such times have passed. > Even with the display glitches, the batch diagnostics are still quite > intelligible, so the glitches are merely an annoyance. Annoyances should be fixed. It's the lack of annoyances which makes (or made) Emacs such an attractive program in the first place. > If despite my advice we decide to support this misconfigured font, then we need > to change the default batch quoting style to 'straight', not 'grave'. This is > because the font in question cannot display grave accent either. Stop being idiotic. > It would be a simple matter to use the 'straight' quoting style for > all batch invocations. I'm not in favor of this, though. How about allowing the user to configure this, in good old fashioned Emacs fashion? -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).