From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Alan Mackenzie Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#24891: 25.1: Falsehood on page "Major Modes" of Emacs manual. Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2016 22:14:05 +0000 Message-ID: <20161107221404.GD2988@acm.fritz.box> References: <20161106221832.GB5605@acm.fritz.box> <71941c5f-0c6c-4edd-99ab-134cf6fdce96@default> <20161107203959.GC2988@acm.fritz.box> <1088fcf6-d37f-4f0f-8537-3dbb4e01d2a0@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1478556944 6700 195.159.176.226 (7 Nov 2016 22:15:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2016 22:15:44 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) Cc: 24891@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 07 23:15:40 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c3sC9-0006Jh-24 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2016 23:15:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56914 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c3sCC-0007J8-1V for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2016 17:15:16 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43565) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c3sC1-0007DS-SJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2016 17:15:06 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c3sBy-0004JL-FJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2016 17:15:05 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:33380) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c3sBy-0004JH-CG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2016 17:15:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c3sBy-0000Dd-5N for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2016 17:15:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Alan Mackenzie Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2016 22:15:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 24891 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 24891-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B24891.1478556868785 (code B ref 24891); Mon, 07 Nov 2016 22:15:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 24891) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Nov 2016 22:14:28 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48779 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c3sBQ-0000Ca-I6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2016 17:14:28 -0500 Original-Received: from ocolin.muc.de ([193.149.48.4]:26016 helo=mail.muc.de) by debbugs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c3sBO-0000CS-QO for 24891@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2016 17:14:27 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 34483 invoked by uid 3782); 7 Nov 2016 22:14:26 -0000 Original-Received: from acm.muc.de (p548C6E8D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.140.110.141]) by colin.muc.de (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Mon, 07 Nov 2016 23:14:25 +0100 Original-Received: (qmail 3622 invoked by uid 1000); 7 Nov 2016 22:14:05 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1088fcf6-d37f-4f0f-8537-3dbb4e01d2a0@default> X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.12 (Macallan) X-Primary-Address: acm@muc.de X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:125450 Archived-At: Hello, Drew. On Mon, Nov 07, 2016 at 12:51:02PM -0800, Drew Adams wrote: > > > and we can drop the comma before "prior". > > Maybe, maybe not. The bit beginning with "prior" isn't qualifying > > what comes before, it's adding an extra bit of independent information, > > so the comma is justified. > I don't agree. It is not an independent clause - it cannot stand > alone. It is an adverbial clause that qualifies how (when) the modes > run the p-g-m hook. Sorry to keep pounding on at this one, but I see the reason for the comma now. It's because the "prior ..." bit applies to the "text-mode-hook" bit as well as the "prog-mode-hook" bit. The comma prevents "prior ..." from attaching exclusively to the "prog-mode-hook" bit. Anyway, good afternoon (for you), good night (for me)! [ .... ] -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).