From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Vasilij Schneidermann Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#24515: bug#24514: 24.5; [WIP][PATCH] Lispy backtraces Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 11:55:41 +0200 Message-ID: <20160923095541.GC644@odonien.localdomain> References: <20160922231447.GA3833@odonien.localdomain> <98fbb582-3da4-bd83-a2e9-e341dd7f6140@gmail.com> <83shsrc5mi.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1474624662 30644 195.159.176.226 (23 Sep 2016 09:57:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 09:57:42 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.0 (2016-08-17) Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?Cl=C3=A9ment?= Pit--Claudel To: Eli Zaretskii , 24515@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 23 11:57:38 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bnNEK-00052h-77 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=dYNB/KC2cZQQg6Cm3h9P0ySXxHddkDoiyY8tgIfK7ec=; b=hUvUCBDOeAzaETpfAhL0B2hQIcJ9aOhy6AJ6ek0PN8+c/JqfSjKLboIWjG6QkdpQzL uXb5nq/5rbnL2cnMAZfhSef8UgxcaW8VZYYkYgMvacjbM+kj+BTpRPx3tZJCKWvtJbm5 l3xUdXKiTmSH8HNRxFOQBXW/zYpLPonCI6QIP1OpVNV5BSHtM8kv0ARqFrSjRs/gZt3w /tXkdVH6rZLUzmXh6bLEhseuD0UdJqupB+m6ncqgf9ZA0d88CRMzfejl3X6Ib1DFgqVM raI9dnkxXUuWPAFYlb55JtZ26YbUM1vV+7FgWExnILz8ammkPIFY6RQ0j9sb/sTv1R49 TSuQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AE9vXwOBtv76NSFdDwRJhp7igzzPxpiCgCAAwQUECvJnmtO4MjdJxakAEIq96v3QURhQiQ== X-Received: by 10.194.141.13 with SMTP id rk13mr6036548wjb.25.1474624557935; Fri, 23 Sep 2016 02:55:57 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost ([2.160.70.242]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id bk7sm6374534wjc.36.2016.09.23.02.55.57 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Fri, 23 Sep 2016 02:55:57 -0700 (PDT) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <83shsrc5mi.fsf@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:123592 Archived-At: > How about if we install this with a user option, off by default, that > switches to the new format when turned on? This sounds sensible, but I'm not sure whether it's worth complicating the patch by adding checks for this new user option in `eval.c`, `debug.el` and `edebug.el`. > Then we could collect user experience for some time, and make this the > default if everyone likes it. How do you plan on informing and surveying users? Would a discussion on emacs-devel be the way to do this or do you have something different in mind?