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From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
Cc: 22983@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#22983: syntax-ppss returns wrong result.
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 21:24:10 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160311212410.GG2888@acm.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b158555f-e014-ed7b-23eb-d80d2d77a6f4@yandex.ru>

Hello, Dmitry.

On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 10:31:50PM +0200, Dmitry Gutov wrote:
> On 03/11/2016 05:15 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:

> > At this point, `ppss-1' and `parse' should match (apart from elements 2
> > and 6).  What we actually have is:

> >     ppss-1: (2 39992 nil nil nil nil 2 nil nil (39975 39992))
> >     parse:  (0 nil 15674 34 nil nil 0 nil 15675 nil)

> I think you mean that ppss-0 and ppss-1 must match independent of 
> narrowing, and also match (parse-partial-sexp 1 40000).

Er no, I meant what I wrote: the result of (syntax-ppss pos) must match
that of (parse-partial-sexp (point-min) pos).  I think ppss-0 and ppss-1
did actually match (but I can't quite remember).

> Considering narrowing can change point-min arbitrarily, specifying 
> (syntax-ppss pos) as (parse-partial-sexp (point-min) pos) is a losing 
> proposition if you want consistency.

Indeed.  But that is how syntax-ppss is specified, and (partially) how
it is implemented.

> Alas, we have some code out there that implements multiple-major-mode 
> functionality using narrowing and some hacking of syntax-ppss-last 
> syntax-ppss-cache values.

> Changing syntax-ppss to be independent of narrowing will break it, and 
> we'll need to provide some alternative first.

syntax-ppss is broken, and can't be fixed.  The only sensible fix would
be to specify that (syntax-ppss pos) is the same as (parse-partial-sexp
1 pos).  But that is then a totally different function, and there are
around 200 uses in the Emacs sources to check and fix, to say nothing of
external code.

> We could introduce a syntax-ppss-dont-widen variable, though. Similar to 
> font-lock-dont-widen.

I'm trying to figure that out.  Wouldn't that still leave you with
problems when point-min is inside a string?

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).





  reply	other threads:[~2016-03-11 21:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-11 15:15 bug#22983: syntax-ppss returns wrong result Alan Mackenzie
2016-03-11 20:31 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-11 21:24   ` Alan Mackenzie [this message]
2016-03-11 21:35     ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-11 22:15       ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-03-11 22:38         ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-13 17:37           ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-13 18:57             ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-03-14  0:47               ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-14  1:04                 ` Drew Adams
2016-04-03 22:55                   ` John Wiegley
2016-03-14  1:49               ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-13 17:32     ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-13 18:52 ` Andreas Röhler
2016-03-13 18:56   ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-18  0:49 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-19 12:27   ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-03-19 18:47     ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-27  0:51       ` John Wiegley
2016-03-27  1:14         ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-04-03 22:58           ` John Wiegley
2016-04-03 23:15             ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-09-02 13:12               ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-02 17:40                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-09-02 17:53                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-03 20:44                   ` John Wiegley
2017-09-04 23:34                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-09-05  6:57                     ` Andreas Röhler
2017-09-05 12:28                     ` John Wiegley
2017-09-07 20:45                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-09-08 16:04                         ` Andreas Röhler
2017-09-10 18:26                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-09-09  9:44                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-09-09 10:20                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-09-09 12:18                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-09-10 11:42                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-09-10 11:36                           ` bug#22983: [ Patch ] " Alan Mackenzie
2017-09-10 22:53                             ` Stefan Monnier
2017-09-10 23:36                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-09-11 11:10                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-09-12  0:11                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-09-12 22:12                                     ` Richard Stallman
2017-09-11 19:42                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-09-11 20:20                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-09-11  0:11                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-09-11 20:12                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-09-12  0:24                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-09-17 10:29                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-09-17 23:43                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-09-18 19:08                                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-09-19  0:02                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-09-19 20:47                                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-09-22 14:09                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-09-24 11:26                                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-09-25 23:53                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-10-01 16:36                                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-10-04 20:07                                                 ` Johan Bockgård
2017-09-17 11:12                             ` Philipp Stephani
2017-09-19 20:50                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-09-07 17:56                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-09-07 20:36                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-19 23:16     ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-19 23:00   ` Vitalie Spinu
2016-03-19 23:20     ` Dmitry Gutov
     [not found] ` <mailman.7307.1457709188.843.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2017-10-01 16:31   ` Alan Mackenzie

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