On Wed, 25 Mar 2015 23:25:54 +0900 handa@gnu.org (K. Handa) wrote: > Could you try these patches and test the usability of > forward-char-intrusive and backward-char-intrusive? The results weren't quite what I'd hoped for, but the results are usable. Thank you. The text I principally tried the commands out on was Tai Tham text . I used corrections for the bugs that had been affecting its rendering. It seems that the commands prevent shaping across the cursor, but do not inhibit shaping within the former cluster. I was only doing shaping on complete orthographic syllables, so entering a cluster chiefly had the effect of losing all positioning of marks and making the text unreadable. However, the behaviour may make a good teaching aid! I then tried the command on Thai, and there the commands worked well. I therefore added to LANA-OTF.flt, for marks not in complete syllables, the command: ("(M)" [ (1 = ) ] ) ; For stepping through. I attach the results of not stepping through (labelled 0), and stepping through by 1 to 7 characters (labelled 1 to 7). The result is not so good at 3 steps - I think because the extra rendering command does not handle SAKOT. Aggressive use of dotted circles might improve the display. I don't know why, at the end, there is a delay in TONE-2 rising to its proper height. C-S-f is not a good key sequence for me. C-S is one of my X-keyboard switching combinations - I chose it for compatibility with the Xming X server. Richard.