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From: Ilya Zakharevich <ilya@math.berkeley.edu>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 19989@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#19989: 25.0.50; Build instructions on Windows
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2015 12:30:37 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150303203037.GA26426@math.berkeley.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83385mq9og.fsf@gnu.org>

On Tue, Mar 03, 2015 at 07:21:03PM +0200, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2015 19:00:09 +0200
> > From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
> > Cc: 19989@debbugs.gnu.org
> > 
> > >   • mingw shell sets path to (essentially) FOO/msys/1.0/mingw/bin (here FOO
> > >         is the install path), but there is no directory
> > >           FOO/msys/1.0/mingw
> > >         what is is
> > >           FOO/bin
> > >     So I needed to make a symbolic link (Windows style required) by
> > >     running
> > >         mklink /j mingw FOO
> > >     in FOO/msys/1.0

> > FWIW, the 2nd issue sounds to me like an installation mistake of some
> > kind (did you install MinGW inside the MSYS tree, by chance?).

How would I know?  I just ran mingw-get (as described), and set
install directory ( = FOO) once.

The result:
  FOO/bin		- contains gcc executables etc
  FOO/msys/1.0/		- contains msys
  FOO/msys/1.0/bin	- contains msys executables

> >  But
> > I'm not an expert; all I know is that on my system, the MSYS Bash
> > window has PATH set to whatever my system-wide PATH is, with these
> > directories prepended:
> > 
> >   .:/usr/local/bin:/mingw/bin:/bin:
> > 
> > IOW, no msys/1.0/mingw/ anywhere in sight.

???  Of course it IS in sight:

  /bin	       IS native   FOO/msys/1.0/bin
  /mingw/bin   IS native   FOO/msys/1.0/mingw/bin

> Btw, there's nothing magic in the PATH value: it is set in
> /etc/profile (probably FOO/msys/etc/profile in your case), and you can
> edit it to your heart's content.

Only if one KNOWS what all these slashes-etc MEAN.  As you see, even
*you* got lost what denotes which native directory.  If what the users
know is what is in nt/INSTALL, they have no way to deduce this info.   

=======================================================

BTW: you reminded me: there is another bug in Emacs build — this one
purely in Emacs.  My default PATH accesses a complete cygwin
installation, and:

  •  Emacs won’t build unless I unset PATH before running the msys shell.

I expect that the detection of presence of dependencies is not
“specific enough”:

  • it can see “something” present on PATH, and
  • it does not check that “this” won’t actually build with mingw
    being first on PATH. 

Ilya





  reply	other threads:[~2015-03-03 20:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-03 16:34 bug#19989: 25.0.50; Build instructions on Windows Ilya Zakharevich
2015-03-03 17:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-03-03 17:21   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-03-03 20:30     ` Ilya Zakharevich [this message]
2015-03-04  3:42       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-03-05 21:18         ` Ilya Zakharevich
2015-03-06  8:29           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-03-06  9:21             ` martin rudalics
2015-03-06  9:59               ` Ilya Zakharevich
2015-03-06 11:16                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-03-07  1:44                   ` Ilya Zakharevich
2015-03-07  9:11                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-03-08  6:22                       ` Ilya Zakharevich
2015-08-15  8:03                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-08-15 11:22                     ` Dani Moncayo
2015-08-15 11:38                       ` Dani Moncayo
2015-08-15 12:10                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-08-15 12:09                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-08-15 12:24                         ` Dani Moncayo
2015-08-15 12:26                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-08-15 13:39                             ` Dani Moncayo
2015-03-06 10:28               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-03-06 14:13                 ` Óscar Fuentes
2015-03-06 14:14                 ` Óscar Fuentes
2015-03-06 14:40                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-03-07  1:47                   ` Ilya Zakharevich
2015-03-07  2:04                     ` Óscar Fuentes
2015-03-07  9:19                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-03-06 18:53                 ` martin rudalics
2015-03-06 19:27                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-03-07  9:40                     ` martin rudalics
2015-03-07 10:04                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-03-07 10:28                         ` martin rudalics
2015-03-08  6:07                           ` Ilya Zakharevich
2015-03-08 10:04                             ` martin rudalics
2015-03-08 16:07                               ` Ilya Zakharevich
2015-03-06  9:46             ` Ilya Zakharevich
2015-03-06 10:33               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-03-07  1:37                 ` Ilya Zakharevich
2015-03-06 10:08             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-03-07  1:35               ` Ilya Zakharevich
2015-03-07  9:04                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-03-08  6:14                   ` Ilya Zakharevich
2015-03-08 15:46                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-03-08 16:04                   ` Ilya Zakharevich
2015-03-08 16:59                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-03-03 21:15   ` Ilya Zakharevich

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