From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gregor Zattler Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#16292: 24.3.50; info docs now contain single straight quotes instead of `' Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2013 23:08:10 +0100 Message-ID: <20131229220810.GF7972@boo.workgroup> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1388355016 27907 80.91.229.3 (29 Dec 2013 22:10:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2013 22:10:16 +0000 (UTC) To: 16292@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 29 23:10:22 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VxOYw-0000fU-3r for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 29 Dec 2013 23:10:22 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56388 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VxOYv-0003OV-HX for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 29 Dec 2013 17:10:21 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34957) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VxOYj-0003Mp-SG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Dec 2013 17:10:17 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VxOYc-0000Bt-Kn for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Dec 2013 17:10:09 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:36817) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VxOYc-0000BH-A2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Dec 2013 17:10:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VxOYb-0000oN-Us for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Dec 2013 17:10:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Gregor Zattler Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2013 22:10:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 16292 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.13883549503030 (code B ref -1); Sun, 29 Dec 2013 22:10:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Dec 2013 22:09:10 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50836 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VxOXm-0000mo-80 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 29 Dec 2013 17:09:10 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:33185) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VxOXk-0000mg-93 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 29 Dec 2013 17:09:09 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VxOXc-0008UJ-Pb for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 29 Dec 2013 17:09:07 -0500 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:36153) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VxOXc-0008UF-MG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 29 Dec 2013 17:09:00 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34888) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VxOXW-0002p1-8T for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Dec 2013 17:09:00 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VxOXQ-0008SV-3U for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Dec 2013 17:08:54 -0500 Original-Received: from mout-xforward.gmx.net ([82.165.159.42]:49468) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VxOXP-0008SL-R2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Dec 2013 17:08:48 -0500 Original-Received: from boo.workgroup ([87.187.187.112]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx003) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LsTge-1VHYRi2v4S-011xaQ for ; Sun, 29 Dec 2013 23:08:46 +0100 Original-Received: from grfz by boo.workgroup with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1VxOXI-0006wl-St; Sun, 29 Dec 2013 23:08:40 +0100 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:0NaAUheMNMjzTyL6e7O8JqHnQ+oZ7bzxXT4qNWFdj33zZyZLDWG oPATCPmpuma5576nQWfdgvfjUbs9VjCzlV9xJc5Sc5V6eCJFXPmEZozyd4hn2acbbLiilhv Sayydf6/npNjAsExZJT8BfuFbPogD1MJ4OmuAVYKfSc6VR0dXUawb+FuTt1sV8MG3m9GFZe yM3NP4IR+6Qbx+LKXlBbg== X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:82718 Archived-At: Dear emacs developers, when I do a `make docs' the generated info files do not contain `' -quotes any more but '' -quotes. This breaks e.g. info+ fontification (a very helpful feature). Reason is makeinfo >=5 produces either single straight quotes for info files or single curly ones, depending on the document encoding: (from makeinfo maunal:) 'OPEN_QUOTE_SYMBOL' When an opening quote is needed, e.g., for '@samp' output, use the specified character; default '‘' for HTML, '‘' for Docbook. For Info, the default depends on the enabled document encoding (*note @documentencoding::); if no document encoding is set, or the encoding is US-ASCII, etc., ''' is used. This character usually appears as an undirected single quote on modern systems. If the document encoding is Unicode, the Info output uses a Unicode left quote. [...] (from makeinfo maunal:) 17.2 '@documentencoding ENC': Set Input Encoding ================================================ The '@documentencoding' command declares the input document encoding. Write it on a line by itself, with a valid encoding specification following, near the beginning of the file but after '@setfilename' (*note @setfilename::): @documentencoding ENC At present, Texinfo supports only these encodings: 'US-ASCII' This has no particular effect, but it's included for completeness. 'UTF-8' The vast global character encoding, expressed in 8-bit bytes. 'ISO-8859-2' 'ISO-8859-1' 'ISO-8859-15' [...] Searching texinfos mailing list archives showed that this was discussed roughly two years before and that it is the result of a decision to go the same way as the rest of the world which interprets ` as grave accent: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.texinfo.bugs/5526/match=single+quotes : |> For the record, RFC20 says the meaning of character 0x60 is |> EITHER "grave accent" OR "opening single quotation mark". It |> then says this character ".. should not be used without |> determining that there is agreement between sender and recipient" I think it's highly desirable to be able to tell beginning and closing of enclosing characters apart. Therefore I consider the info files single straight quotes a bug. I assume there is a way to produce `' quotations with modern makeinfo or the *.texi files should have @documentencoding directives which produce single curly quotes. Thanks for your attention, Gregor