From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Vincent Lefevre Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#13505: Bug#696026: emacs24: file corruption on saving Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 23:22:11 +0100 Message-ID: <20130120222211.GH2695@xvii.vinc17.org> References: <20121215223809.GA7549@xvii.vinc17.org> <877gn8ijgn.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <83obgjpzod.fsf@gnu.org> <20130120212508.GF2695@xvii.vinc17.org> <83bocjpm81.fsf@gnu.org> <20130120221007.GG2695@xvii.vinc17.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1358720585 29812 80.91.229.3 (20 Jan 2013 22:23:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 22:23:05 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 696026-forwarded@bugs.debian.org, 696026@bugs.debian.org, rlb@defaultvalue.org, 13505@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 20 23:23:23 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Tx3IQ-00068g-Ef for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 23:23:22 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50396 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tx3I9-00068I-GK for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 17:23:05 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:60629) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tx3I7-00065S-5y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 17:23:04 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tx3I6-0000Gt-2K for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 17:23:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:36438) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tx3I5-0000Gp-VU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 17:23:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tx3J3-000524-O3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 17:24:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Vincent Lefevre Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 22:24:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 13505 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 13505-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B13505.135872059519284 (code B ref 13505); Sun, 20 Jan 2013 22:24:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 13505) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jan 2013 22:23:15 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41902 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tx3II-00050z-Pz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 17:23:15 -0500 Original-Received: from vinc17.pck.nerim.net ([213.41.242.187]:64095 helo=smtp-xvii.vinc17.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tx3IG-00050r-Jp for 13505@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 17:23:13 -0500 Original-Received: by xvii.vinc17.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7F80B31000A; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 23:22:11 +0100 (CET) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20130120221007.GG2695@xvii.vinc17.org> X-Mailer-Info: http://www.vinc17.net/mutt/ User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21-6290-vl-r57386 (2013-01-17) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:70106 Archived-At: On 2013-01-20 23:10:08 +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > But Emacs should clearly tell the user what to do after C-x C-s and > clearly say when there can be data loss. Currently it says: [...] In fact, I fear that this may not be sufficient, because some data loss silently occurs when visiting the file. If after the decoding, it appears that there are no problematic characters (is this possible?), the user would be able to save the file without any message from Emacs. --=20 Vincent Lef=E8vre - Web: 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / AriC project (LIP, ENS-Lyon)