From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Vincent Lefevre Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#13505: Bug#696026: emacs24: file corruption on saving Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 22:25:08 +0100 Message-ID: <20130120212508.GF2695@xvii.vinc17.org> References: <20121215223809.GA7549@xvii.vinc17.org> <877gn8ijgn.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <83obgjpzod.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1358717166 2670 80.91.229.3 (20 Jan 2013 21:26:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 21:26:06 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 696026-forwarded@bugs.debian.org, 696026@bugs.debian.org, Rob Browning , 13505@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 20 22:26:24 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Tx2PH-0000TU-Uv for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 22:26:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35849 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tx2P1-00023v-1d for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 16:26:07 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:50584) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tx2Oy-00023R-4a for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 16:26:05 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tx2Ow-0003Wk-ME for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 16:26:04 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:36404) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tx2Ow-0003Wg-Iz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 16:26:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tx2Pt-0003di-VE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 16:27:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Vincent Lefevre Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 21:27:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 13505 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 13505-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B13505.135871717613938 (code B ref 13505); Sun, 20 Jan 2013 21:27:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 13505) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jan 2013 21:26:16 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41868 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tx2P9-0003ck-IS for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 16:26:16 -0500 Original-Received: from vinc17.pck.nerim.net ([213.41.242.187]:50605 helo=smtp-xvii.vinc17.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tx2P4-0003cY-Ou for 13505@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 16:26:14 -0500 Original-Received: by xvii.vinc17.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C120431000A; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 22:25:08 +0100 (CET) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <83obgjpzod.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer-Info: http://www.vinc17.net/mutt/ User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21-6290-vl-r57386 (2013-01-17) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:70103 Archived-At: On 2013-01-20 18:49:38 +0200, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > Personally, I don't think there's a bug here. It's a cockpit error. Perhaps it isn't a bug at save time. But then, selecting a lossy encoding by default when visiting the file is the bug (and really a regression), particularly if this isn't clearly told to the user. Actually this is related, since the lossy encoding becomes a real problem only at save time (and for copy-paste I assume, though the file doesn't get overwritten by that). --=20 Vincent Lef=E8vre - Web: 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / AriC project (LIP, ENS-Lyon)