From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan Mackenzie Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#13141: please review bug #13141 Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 23:20:15 +0000 Message-ID: <20130119232015.GA517__12316.4230179556$1358638051$gmane$org@acm.acm> References: <415AF94149E240B7BCB28128E45D3135@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1358638032 22557 80.91.229.3 (19 Jan 2013 23:27:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 23:27:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 13141@debbugs.gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 20 00:27:30 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Twhow-0000aO-Ey for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 00:27:30 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39760 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Twhof-0000OH-E8 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 18:27:13 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:47203) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Twhob-0000Hh-S6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 18:27:10 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Twhoa-0005s9-ES for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 18:27:09 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:35286) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Twhoa-0005s2-AN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 18:27:08 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TwhpS-0004Dj-B0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 18:28:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Alan Mackenzie Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 23:28:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 13141 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix Original-Received: via spool by 13141-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B13141.135863808016215 (code B ref 13141); Sat, 19 Jan 2013 23:28:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 13141) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jan 2013 23:28:00 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40750 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TwhpP-0004DT-3j for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 18:27:59 -0500 Original-Received: from colin.muc.de ([193.149.48.1]:29476 helo=mail.muc.de) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TwhpM-0004DL-KH for 13141@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 18:27:58 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 70411 invoked by uid 3782); 19 Jan 2013 23:27:00 -0000 Original-Received: from acm.muc.de (pD9557F3A.dip.t-dialin.net [217.85.127.58]) by colin.muc.de (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 00:26:59 +0100 Original-Received: (qmail 558 invoked by uid 1000); 19 Jan 2013 23:20:15 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <415AF94149E240B7BCB28128E45D3135@us.oracle.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.12 (Macallan) X-Primary-Address: acm@muc.de X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:70065 Archived-At: Hi, Drew. On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 03:10:09PM -0800, Drew Adams wrote: > This is about the info that gets automatically added to bug reports. > Stefan granted that most of that info is anyway useless, to him at least. > Jambunathan suggested a Boolean option to skip such info altogether. > I provided a patch that lets users customize which info to include. > Glenn simply tagged the bug `wontfix', saying "There is no need for such > complexity." > The patch is straightforward. Please reconsider it. > Why not let users set the behavior they want for this? I have to side with Glenn here. We need to make Bug reporters' jobs as simple as possible. Sadly, there is a tendency for things which one _can_ configure to become things that one _must_ configure - we know all about this in Emacs - which would be most unfriendly for novice bug reporters. Let's keep this as simple as possible. > http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=13141#43 -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).