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From: jari <jari.aalto@cante.net>
To: Ken Brown <kbrown@cornell.edu>
Cc: 10257@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#10257: 23.3.1 Cygwin: network drives - file is write protected (false positive)
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 16:15:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111214141521.GE22678@picasso.cante.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4EE89CAB.8080301@cornell.edu>

On 2011-12-14 07:55, Ken Brown wrote:
| ...
| >> [Eli] or ask the maintainers of the platform to fix that either in the
| >> platform libraries or in platform-specific code in Emacs. I think
| >> that is the right way; adding a user option every time is not, IMNSHO.
| >>
| >> If native Windows and even MS-DOS ports can DTRT with this, then how
| >> come Cygwin cannot?

To recap:

- Cygwin can, but it needs special setup. This setup is not trivial:
  if you intend to use same Windows Mapped Network Drive. If you use
  mount(1), you lose Windows File Manager Integration because paths
  are no longer the same.

- Emacs can't rely on UID, GID on Cygwin to be correct. 

| >The MS-DOS port uses system-specific code in `check_writable' (see
| >fileio.c). I don't know whether the native Windows port DTRT for Jari's
| >network filesystem. Jari, can you test this?

Yes, Windows NT EMacs port works fine. No problems

- File on remote drive are not marked read-only
- File on remote drive are written without asking.

| As I understand it, this is a filesystem problem: Samba returns a
| fake SID to Windows, so Cygwin can't determine the correct uid/gid.

Yes.

| Jari, you were already told on the Cygwin list how to work around
| this problem.  Why not just do it?

It's too complex, and doesn't work with multiple Samaba severs that
would use all different GID, UIDs for the same user name, and I cannot
get right UIDs and GIDs installed ... too many issues.

I can work just fine under Cygwin without these GID, UIDs set. But I
can't use Emacs effectively.

I would expect there to be at least an option to control these
pre-emptive confirmation questions. Without any control, the situation
is a nightmare.

Compare:

      confirm-kill-emacs
      dired-no-confirm
      message-kill-buffer-on-exit
      vc-suppress-confirm
      ...

Jari





  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-12-14 14:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-12-09 18:23 bug#10257: 23.3.1 Cygwin: network drives - file is write protected (false positive) Jari Aalto
2011-12-09 20:33 ` Ken Brown
2011-12-10  9:58   ` jaalto
2011-12-13 12:18     ` Ken Brown
2011-12-13 14:00       ` jari
2011-12-13 14:43         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-13 15:12           ` Ken Brown
2011-12-13 19:27             ` Stefan Monnier
2011-12-13 20:16               ` Ken Brown
2011-12-14  2:54                 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-12-14  3:27                   ` Ken Brown
2011-12-14  8:01                     ` Jari Aalto
2011-12-14  8:35                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-14 12:24                         ` Ken Brown
2011-12-14 12:55                           ` Ken Brown
2011-12-14 13:10                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-14 14:19                               ` Ken Brown
2011-12-14 14:47                                 ` jari
2011-12-14 17:30                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-14 17:57                                   ` Ken Brown
2011-12-15  2:43                                     ` Ken Brown
2011-12-15  2:53                                       ` Ken Brown
2011-12-15  3:19                                         ` Ken Brown
2011-12-15  4:04                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-15 14:42                                         ` Ken Brown
2011-12-16 19:37                                           ` Ken Brown
2011-12-16 19:46                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-16 23:15                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2011-12-17 17:08                                               ` Ken Brown
2011-12-14 14:15                             ` jari [this message]
2011-12-14 14:29                               ` Ken Brown
2011-12-14 14:43                                 ` jari
2011-12-14 17:21                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-14 17:23             ` Richard Stallman
2011-12-13 16:26           ` jari
2011-12-13 16:52             ` Ken Brown
2011-12-13 17:48               ` jari
2011-12-13 17:48             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-13 18:05               ` jari
2011-12-13 18:36                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-15 14:44           ` Jason Rumney

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