From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Vincent Lefevre Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#8705: 23.3; Emacs occasionally crashes (segfault) just after starting it Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 14:59:19 +0200 Message-ID: <20110520125919.GJ1581@prunille.vinc17.org> References: <87sjs9ycor.fsf@ypig.lip.ens-lyon.fr> <83sjs9fye5.fsf@gnu.org> <20110520111601.GH1581@prunille.vinc17.org> <83r57tfvot.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1305896419 6680 80.91.229.12 (20 May 2011 13:00:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 13:00:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 8705@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 20 15:00:14 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QNPJN-0005rn-O9 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 20 May 2011 15:00:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34240 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QNPJK-0007Fb-2G for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 20 May 2011 09:00:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:52882) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QNPJH-0007D2-6h for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 20 May 2011 09:00:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QNPJG-0007PV-4o for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 20 May 2011 09:00:07 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:59119) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QNPJG-0007PM-3E for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 20 May 2011 09:00:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QNPJF-0007sd-0I; Fri, 20 May 2011 09:00:05 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Vincent Lefevre Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 13:00:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 8705 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 8705-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B8705.130589636930219 (code B ref 8705); Fri, 20 May 2011 13:00:04 +0000 Original-Received: (at 8705) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 May 2011 12:59:29 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QNPIe-0007rM-HG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 20 May 2011 08:59:28 -0400 Original-Received: from vinc17.pck.nerim.net ([213.41.242.187] helo=smtp-prunille.vinc17.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QNPIc-0007r6-1o for 8705@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 20 May 2011 08:59:27 -0400 Original-Received: by prunille.vinc17.org (Postfix, from userid 501) id 247D060960AE; Fri, 20 May 2011 14:59:20 +0200 (CEST) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <83r57tfvot.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer-Info: http://www.vinc17.net/mutt/ User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21-6171-vl-r42848 (2011-03-30) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 09:00:05 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:46609 Archived-At: On 2011-05-20 14:38:58 +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 13:16:01 +0200 > > From: Vincent Lefevre > > Cc: 8705@debbugs.gnu.org > >=20 > > On 2011-05-20 13:40:34 +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > All of your reported crashes seem to be in a call to `getenv', whic= h > > > is a library function, called by GTK routines deep in the GTK code. > > > It is hard to imagine that they could be Emacs problems, especially > > > since you see them since Emacs 22. > >=20 > > Unless Emacs has corrupted the memory earlier. >=20 > That's definitely a possibility. However, it is strange that only you > see these problems for several versions. If Emacs corrupts memory so > early into the session, many other users would be affected. No, because other users have a different configuration. I'm quite sure that the configuration matters as I got such crashes on different machines (where I use the same config). By configuration, I mean the .emacs, but also the graphical environment (e.g. the window manager, fvwm in my case, and its configuration). That wouldn't be the first time an application is affected by the window manager. See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D551678 for instance, where I could reproduce a bug only with manual/active placement. --=20 Vincent Lef=E8vre - Web: 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / Ar=E9naire project (LIP, ENS-Lyon)