From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: md314159@t-online.de (Dr. Michael Dowling) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#4418: 23.1; Long timeout on starting emacs-23.1 Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 12:13:26 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <20090912101326.E67E71E45B4@moocow.localdomain> Reply-To: Mike.Dowling@t-online.de, 4418@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1252773120 4253 80.91.229.12 (12 Sep 2009 16:32:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 16:32:00 +0000 (UTC) To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 12 18:31:53 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MmVVr-0005AB-BY for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Sep 2009 18:31:52 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42223 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MmVVo-000739-BA for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Sep 2009 12:31:44 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MmSHW-0001ua-W2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Sep 2009 09:04:47 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MmSHS-0001tf-FG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Sep 2009 09:04:45 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=45246 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MmSHS-0001tc-5g for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Sep 2009 09:04:42 -0400 Original-Received: from mx20.gnu.org ([199.232.41.8]:17185) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MmSHR-0001uM-Jc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Sep 2009 09:04:41 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]) by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MmPor-0000x8-55 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Sep 2009 06:27:01 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n8CAQxro008823; Sat, 12 Sep 2009 03:26:59 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n8CAK37k007641; Sat, 12 Sep 2009 03:20:03 -0700 Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 03:20:03 -0700 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: md314159@t-online.de (Dr. Michael Dowling) Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs 2Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 10:20:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 4418 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B.12527504296697 (code B ref -1); Sat, 12 Sep 2009 10:20:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 12 Sep 2009 10:13:49 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. 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Emacs starts normally whenever there is an Internet connection. Originally, I used the Arch Linux x86_64 cvs package. About two weeks ago, I suddenly started to get this timeout effect. I then upgraded to the stable version; same effect. I then compiled it myself; same effect. This looks rather like it might be a feature; presumably emacs has a reason to try to do something via the Internet. If so, then it's a feature that one must be able to turn off. I live in one city at the weekends where I have an Internet connection, but I work in another during the week where I don't. It is quite untenable having to wait so long everytime emacs is started where there is no Internet connection. I also find it rather disconcerting when a program like emacs starts making Internet connections without being asked to explicitly and without my being able to discover why. I tried look at the NEWS and BUS documentation, but could find nothing to explain this behaviour. In GNU Emacs 23.1.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.16.5) of 2009-07-31 on bitzer.hoetzel.info configured using `configure '--prefix=/usr' '--sysconfdir=/etc' '--libexecdir=/usr/lib' '--localstatedir=/var' '--mandir=/usr/share/man' '--without-sound' '-with-x-toolkit=gtk' 'CFLAGS=-march=x86-64 -mtune=generic -O2 -pipe'' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: en_IE@euro.modified value of $LC_COLLATE: C value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: en_IE@euro.modified value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: iso-latin-9-unix default-enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Info Minor modes in effect: icomplete-mode: t shell-dirtrack-mode: t display-time-mode: t tooltip-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t global-auto-composition-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t column-number-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: m e m a c s RET m b u g s RET ESC [ B ESC [ B ESC [ B ESC [ B ESC [ B TAB ESC [ B ESC [ B ESC [ B ESC [ B ESC [ B ESC [ B ESC [ B ESC [ 1 ~ ESC [ C ESC [ C ESC [ C ESC [ C RET u TAB ESC [ B RET ESC x r e p o TAB r TAB RET Recent messages: ("emacs" "-f" "info") Toggling tool-bar-mode off; better pass an explicit argument. Toggling menu-bar-mode off; better pass an explicit argument. Loading rubydb3x...done For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. Composing main Info directory...done Making completion list...