From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dan Nicolaescu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#3145: 23.0.92; detaching GTK+ tool bar crashes emacs --daemon Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 11:24:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <200905031824.n43IOvuK011766@godzilla.ics.uci.edu> References: <87hc07gdd2.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> <49F959F7.6030002@swipnet.se> <49FC7A02.5030208@swipnet.se> <87bpqbqdrh.fsf@escher.local.home> <49FDD208.9080900@swipnet.se> Reply-To: Dan Nicolaescu , 3145@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1241375593 15606 80.91.229.12 (3 May 2009 18:33:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 18:33:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 3145@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com, Chong Yidong , Stephen Berman To: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun May 03 20:32:57 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1M0gUi-0007rg-Ap for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 03 May 2009 20:32:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49054 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1M0gUh-0002cT-DY for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 03 May 2009 14:32:55 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1M0gU1-00024N-Qo for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 May 2009 14:32:13 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1M0gTx-0001yv-1H for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 May 2009 14:32:13 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=57977 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1M0gTw-0001yi-TG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 May 2009 14:32:08 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:47816) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1M0gTw-0002bw-9I for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 May 2009 14:32:08 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n43IVqDc022477; Sun, 3 May 2009 11:31:53 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n43IU34F021215; Sun, 3 May 2009 11:30:03 -0700 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Dan Nicolaescu Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 18:30:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 3145 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 3145-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B3145.124137511920380 (code B ref 3145); Sun, 03 May 2009 18:30:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 3145) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 3 May 2009 18:25:19 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from barrelv2.ics.uci.edu (barrelv2.ics.uci.edu [128.195.1.114]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n43IPFAp020012 for <3145@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Sun, 3 May 2009 11:25:16 -0700 Original-Received: from godzilla.ics.uci.edu (godzilla.ics.uci.edu [128.195.10.101]) by barrelv2.ics.uci.edu (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n43IOwNL010469; Sun, 3 May 2009 11:24:58 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: (from dann@localhost) by godzilla.ics.uci.edu (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.6/Submit) id n43IOvuK011766; Sun, 3 May 2009 11:24:57 -0700 (PDT) Original-Lines: 31 X-ICS-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ICS-MailScanner-ID: n43IOwNL010469 X-ICS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ICS-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-1.44, required 5, autolearn=disabled, ALL_TRUSTED -1.44) X-ICS-MailScanner-From: dann@godzilla.ics.uci.edu X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 14:32:13 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:27658 Archived-At: Jan Dj=C3=A4rv writes: > Stephen Berman skrev: >=20 > > > > As long as this does not change in GTK+ and no workaround is possible= in > > Emacs, I (sadly) think you should seriously consider disabling detach= ing > > the tool bar in the GTK+ build. When used in conjunction with --daem= on > > it is a ticking time bomb for data loss because of the crash it cause= s. > > I don't make this suggestion lightly, since detaching the tool bar is= to > > me an acceptable workaround for the very annoying shrinking frame bug > > (see bug#3195), but precluding a crash and possible data loss should > > probably take precedence over avoiding annoyance. > > >=20 > I don't mind disabling detaching if it is OK in the current code freeze. IMHO detaching the toolbar is a red herring here. Yes, there on big valid reason to disable detaching the toolbar: it seems that detaching the toolbar is disabled by default by (almost?) all Gtk+ applications. The ticking time bomb is actually using an emacs compiled with the Gtk+ support in conjunction with multi-tty. emacsclient + kill emacsclient + emacsclient results in a crash. IMO we need at least a big fat warning in NEWS (or some other very prominent place) with a reference to the Gtk+ bug to make users aware of the problem. We've had many bug reports about this, we'll only get more after the release.