From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jameson Rollins Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#3080: 23.0.92; emacsclient can not open frame without visiting file Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 17:38:55 -0700 Message-ID: <20090423003855.GK7931@finestructure.net> References: <200904222125.n3MLP4kN008572@godzilla.ics.uci.edu> Reply-To: Jameson Rollins , 3080@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="vKFfOv5t3oGVpiF+" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1240462299 29240 80.91.229.12 (23 Apr 2009 04:51:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 04:51:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 3080@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com, rfrancoise@debian.org To: Dan Nicolaescu Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 23 06:52:47 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LwqvQ-0003A7-CB for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 23 Apr 2009 06:52:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52336 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Lwqu1-0003bc-Fr for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 23 Apr 2009 00:51:13 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LwnM9-0005rw-37 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2009 21:04:01 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LwnM3-0005oP-T5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2009 21:04:00 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=52897 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LwnM3-0005oI-GF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2009 21:03:55 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:47842) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LwnM2-0000v2-Pm for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2009 21:03:55 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n3N13q0Q026987; Wed, 22 Apr 2009 18:03:53 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n3N0j3YR022220; Wed, 22 Apr 2009 17:45:03 -0700 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Jameson Rollins Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 00:45:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 3080 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 3080-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B3080.124044709320905 (code B ref 3080); Thu, 23 Apr 2009 00:45:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 3080) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 23 Apr 2009 00:38:13 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from brinza.cc.columbia.edu (brinza.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.29.8]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n3N0cAUR020898 for <3080@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Wed, 22 Apr 2009 17:38:11 -0700 Original-Received: from servo.finestructure.net (salmon.ligo-wa.caltech.edu [198.129.208.147]) (user=jgr2110 author=jrollins@finestructure.net mech=PLAIN bits=0) by brinza.cc.columbia.edu (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n3N0c5jY002969 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 22 Apr 2009 20:38:06 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from jrollins by servo.finestructure.net with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Lwmxr-0001hq-1g; Wed, 22 Apr 2009 17:38:55 -0700 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200904222125.n3MLP4kN008572@godzilla.ics.uci.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-No-Spam-Score: Local X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.65 on 128.59.29.8 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 21:04:00 -0400 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 00:51:09 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:27411 Archived-At: --vKFfOv5t3oGVpiF+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 02:25:04PM -0700, Dan Nicolaescu wrote: > Jameson Rollins writes: >=20 > > emacsclient does not allow for opening a frame, either in a terminal > > or in a new X frame, with*out* touching a file. This is maybe only an > > issue when emacs is run in --daemon mode where an initial frame is not > > created. It is often useful to open up an emacs without having a > > particular file that needs to be editted, and this is not currently > > possible. In fact, I would prefer to see emacsclient behave more like > > the "classical" emacs behaves. I would like to see the following > > behavior, that I think makes more sense and is more compatible with > > the classic interface: Hi, Dan. Thanks for the response. What I was trying to outline below was partially whether the functionality worked or not, but also that the emacsclient interface is different that the standard emacs interface, and that this seems a little bit unfortunate, seeing as they could be the same. Would it be possible to have them be the same? I think it would make interacting with the server/client much easier. > > emacsclient > > opens up a new frame with *scratch* > does not work, it seems intentional, no idea why. This is also the main thing that I was having issue with not working. Is there any reason the behavior of just having emacsclient called without any arguments open up an empty frame can't be supported? jamie. > > emacsclient > > opens up a new frame with >=20 > emacsclient -c > does this >=20 >=20 > > emacsclient -nw > > opens up a new frame in the current terminal with *scratch* >=20 > this works >=20 > > emacsclient -nw > > opens up a new frame in the current terminal with >=20 > this works >=20 > > emacsclient - > > opens up in an already opened "master" frame >=20 > emacsclient =20 > does this >=20 >=20 --vKFfOv5t3oGVpiF+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJJ77ibAAoJEO00zqvie6q8S8kP/jIol3W95AWHB0eIK7BjlMDW KDQkWrDDHbqYcrNOkO85LmNnkad3fwaa6fO6YoPuTly5SS05RrP5kXyuleQQ19PX weH5/zizg+2yso9MXmW+NLP4wF4+QuzXvPoDCZuVOFHjAjWWyd4uxJkHHhT2FUhS aRxVnAOLj2xeDxuAh8WDSlVBtJ5E+Js8MEvPem3560ZT2LxaKFRBcdLvj8HMpgKB 9VhAvgpIIITPR3PD6owar4psBUX/Fsrrl+2XXfsHFGF49pCuE6MeaMaXhnzIVCbG wqMcR1SmdOORUUrAhlJ8bJV3tWIKEbdFRh/J75tLtwysxbdy3VMnnP+uU7UDBEYJ 5SE4iol7o4zsEjjKbBuksB18YpKz7MlLmmPbu1pz8hTfpnjA9NpilxWhXHlS/QGy YT3mkq3owx3gNDwr3gIn0mk9b7QCUsnr2lcphlFQ2B31xGRXhYQwB+Z2PW7PDO8l LgJX41JWaqWvqhP7U1YrMTnjwT2NZtBhRa4f8ufi6KDzb+dr43WUKz7ndblVC/Ve ZO3WeLNq6pVs0r09Fyo3URnxcqIPBNyZsP0cjhUTNdwX02D2S9rAScYCcIJMJ33I jFpIeOmEwoKBHRhyQ1p6ryLkv3siaG6uCVtCkl5ZhMDjQ+naMNcCqcV6QqBApljW IE+OUr2541L1GL/By2zb =pQEe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --vKFfOv5t3oGVpiF+--