From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dan Nicolaescu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#2756: move SCCS later in vc-handled-backends Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 08:44:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <200904011544.n31Ficb4003367@godzilla.ics.uci.edu> References: <200903231725.n2NHPLF1011557@godzilla.ics.uci.edu> <200903232151.n2NLpuHT014920@godzilla.ics.uci.edu> <200903232222.n2NMMkHl015277@godzilla.ics.uci.edu> Reply-To: Dan Nicolaescu , 2756@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1238602312 27135 80.91.229.12 (1 Apr 2009 16:11:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 16:11:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 2756@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 01 18:13:10 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Lp33Y-0003qz-UL for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 18:12:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53405 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Lp32A-0007sy-RR for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 12:11:22 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Lp2ux-0000XI-9x for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 12:03:55 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Lp2ur-0000Qv-V5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 12:03:54 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=43961 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Lp2ur-0000Qk-QX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 12:03:49 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:38749) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Lp2ur-0007gW-FF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 12:03:49 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n31G3lMk013380; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 09:03:47 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n31Fo4WN009397; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 08:50:04 -0700 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Dan Nicolaescu Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 15:50:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 2756 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 2756-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B2756.12386006977890 (code B ref 2756); Wed, 01 Apr 2009 15:50:04 +0000 Original-Received: (at 2756) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 1 Apr 2009 15:44:57 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from sallyv2.ics.uci.edu (sallyv2.ics.uci.edu [128.195.1.120]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n31FisRs007883 for <2756@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 08:44:55 -0700 Original-Received: from godzilla.ics.uci.edu (godzilla.ics.uci.edu [128.195.10.101]) by sallyv2.ics.uci.edu (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n31FicEk002306; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 08:44:39 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: (from dann@localhost) by godzilla.ics.uci.edu (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.6/Submit) id n31Ficb4003367; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 08:44:38 -0700 (PDT) Original-Lines: 24 X-ICS-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ICS-MailScanner-ID: n31FicEk002306 X-ICS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ICS-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-1.44, required 5, autolearn=disabled, ALL_TRUSTED -1.44) X-ICS-MailScanner-From: dann@godzilla.ics.uci.edu X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 12:03:54 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:26806 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: > >> What problem? And in what way is it a fix for it? > > The fact that SCCS generates unnecessary work for all files managed by > > bzr, git, hg (which is a good number nowadays). > > Unnecessary work is not a problem in and of itself. No, but given that it's unnecessary, and that it will be unnecessary in the future too, why not get rid of it? > And, if this unnecessary work is a problem for Bzr, Git, or Hg files, > it's even more problematic for all the non-revision controlled files > which additionally need to do unnecessary work to determine that they're > neither under Git, Bzr, nor Hg control. So changing the order won't > make much of a difference, other than hide the problem in the particular > case where you're lucky enough to access a file under the right VCS. Yes, the thing is, what you are talking about above is a separate problem that cannot be solved at this point. Even more, the solution for that problem would not solve the problem or unnecessary checking for SCCS for systems that have sccs installed by default (i.e. about all commercial unixes and free ones that install cssc). So why not just move SCCS to the end of the list?