From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: Re: wrong fullscreen frame size on osx Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2008 22:05:10 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <20080202.220510.31790496.mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1201957557 9072 80.91.229.12 (2 Feb 2008 13:05:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2008 13:05:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: wavexx@users.sf.net Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 02 14:06:19 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JLI4X-0006QM-EY for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 02 Feb 2008 14:06:17 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JLI45-0007tl-RV for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 02 Feb 2008 08:05:49 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JLI3A-0006oL-78 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Feb 2008 08:04:52 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JLI38-0006lK-21 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Feb 2008 08:04:50 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JLI36-0006ki-Q6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Feb 2008 08:04:48 -0500 Original-Received: from mathmail.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp ([133.82.132.2]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JLI36-0002DE-AP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Feb 2008 08:04:48 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (church [133.82.132.36]) by mathmail.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13C982C40; Sat, 2 Feb 2008 22:04:44 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on Emacs 22.1 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: NetBSD 3.0 (DF) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:17451 Archived-At: >>>>> On Sat, 02 Feb 2008 13:26:58 +0100, Yuri D'Elia said: >> This is not specific to the Carbon port, as the X11 build (with >> Apple X11 and quartz-wm) also shows the same behavior. Emacs >> currently doesn't have the notion to distinguish multiple >> "monitors". > What about traditional X11 and Xinerama? I said there's no notion of "monitors" in Emacs, and I didn't mean there's no support for multiple monitors in X11. Apple X11 uses Xinerama, and I already mentioned this extension in the link below. >> discussion can be found at >> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-pretest-bug/2007-03/msg00412.html > This discussion seems pretty old. Yet the current behavior is so > broken that some kind of fix had to be done much sooner than > 22.2. Even just considering the actual framebuffer size is much more > consistent and useful given the lack of apis. > Is there any progress on the cvs that I can use, or somewhere? No. Design and introduction of a new notion should be done really carefully, and such kind of changes should be avoided for Emacs 22.2. If you want to suggest a design of the notion of "monitors", Emacs 23 would be a good chance. YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp