From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: Re: when options)mule)set-coding-system is unselectable Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 20:42:35 -0600 (MDT) Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <200207280242.g6S2gZk11379@aztec.santafe.edu> References: <87heixepdh.fsf@jidanni.org> <7263-Sat20Jul2002212329+0300-eliz@is.elta.co.il> <878z3yi5ni.fsf@jidanni.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1027824181 24759 127.0.0.1 (28 Jul 2002 02:43:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 02:43:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: gnu-emacs-bug@moderators.isc.org Return-path: Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 17Ye1L-0006RE-00 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 04:43:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17Ye1j-00060f-00; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 22:43:23 -0400 Original-Received: from chx400.switch.ch ([130.59.10.2]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17Ye12-0005xc-00 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 22:42:40 -0400 Original-Received: from pele.santafe.edu ([192.12.12.119]) by chx400.switch.ch with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 17Ye10-0004Lo-00 for gnu-emacs-bug@moderators.isc.org; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 04:42:39 +0200 Original-Received: from aztec.santafe.edu (aztec [192.12.12.49]) by pele.santafe.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6S2giB21990; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 20:42:44 -0600 (MDT) Original-Received: (from rms@localhost) by aztec.santafe.edu (8.10.2+Sun/8.9.3) id g6S2gZk11379; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 20:42:35 -0600 (MDT) X-Authentication-Warning: aztec.santafe.edu: rms set sender to rms@aztec using -f Original-To: jidanni@dman.ddts.net In-Reply-To: <878z3yi5ni.fsf@jidanni.org> (message from Dan Jacobson on 27 Jul 2002 04:41:05 +0800) Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:2952 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.bugs:2952 Eli> Wrong move. You should use "C-x RET c" before "C-x C-f" instead. Eli> That's because the file is already decoded by the time it is Eli> displayed, and so no tinkering with options>mule>set-coding-system Eli> will make any difference as to how it is displayed. OK, this is exactly what the user needs to know at that point. Can we somehow arrange to get your above sentences told to the user when he goes reaching for that button, instead of just finding, of all the buttons, amazingly, just the one he thinks he needs has its lights turned off I agree that this is something important to do. I don't see precisely where or how Emacs would present that information. In response to what action or command, when?