From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: Re: configure script Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 17:47:23 -0600 (MDT) Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <200206122347.g5CNlNn05901@aztec.santafe.edu> References: <61D0BADD.74BBFB3A.B8B383E9@netscape.net> <200206081915.g58JFT128804@aztec.santafe.edu> <538dgukrilgffka0tdkddf7hdph4i9b5va@4ax.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1023925721 9957 127.0.0.1 (12 Jun 2002 23:48:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 23:48:41 +0000 (UTC) Cc: gnu-emacs-bug@prep.ai.mit.edu Return-path: Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 17IHqz-0002aT-00 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2002 01:48:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 17IHqs-0003Tb-00; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 19:48:34 -0400 Original-Received: from pele.santafe.edu ([192.12.12.119]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 17IHpl-0003MG-00 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 19:47:25 -0400 Original-Received: from aztec.santafe.edu (aztec [192.12.12.49]) by pele.santafe.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5CNlNQ18965; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 17:47:23 -0600 (MDT) Original-Received: (from rms@localhost) by aztec.santafe.edu (8.10.2+Sun/8.9.3) id g5CNlNn05901; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 17:47:23 -0600 (MDT) X-Authentication-Warning: aztec.santafe.edu: rms set sender to rms@aztec using -f Original-To: David.Kastrup@t-online.de In-Reply-To: (message from David Kastrup on 12 Jun 2002 12:40:17 +0200) Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:1984 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.bugs:1984 This is about the most shameless lie and insinuation that I have ever heard. Linus Torvalds has always acknowledged the major influence GNU has had on Linux development. We recognize Linux, the kernel, as being primary Linus's work, notwithstanding the many others who contributed to it. Whether GNU had any effect on the development of Linux does not seem to be a major issue. As for the operating system in which Linux became popular and is mainly used, to say that we "had a major influence on it" is a gross understatement. It was never right to call this operating system "Linux", and we ask people not to do that. That RMS quite shamelessly tries to hijack _all_ credit he can think of and feels comfortable with ignoring everybody else's contribution to Free systems as long as he gets his in, is quite hypocritical. I call the system "GNU/Linux" specifically to give a share of the credit for the system to Linus Torvalds. I also frequently acknowledge that many other people and projects have developed programs that are now included in the system, including X, TeX, Mach, and nowadays thousands more. It is true I don't mention them in the name of the system; is that what you are criticizing me for? I don't think we can, or need, mention all the secondary contributions in the system's name.