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From: "Clément Pit--Claudel" <clement.pitclaudel@live.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 21028@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#21028: Performance regression in revision af1a69f4d17a482c359d98c00ef86fac835b5fac (Apr 2014).
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2017 12:36:25 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1e7bc066-3f29-3897-5039-de7233efc58a@live.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <837f3tch7y.fsf@gnu.org>

On 2017-03-13 11:46, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> I installed Fira Sans and Noto Sans, and changed your program to insert
> more of these characters and actually display all the characters it
> inserts (see below).

Thanks, that's a much better repro than mine :) Here are my timings:

# Stock 24.5
12:01:26 /build/emacs
$ time 24.5/src/emacs -Q --eval "(progn (set-fontset-font \"fontset-startup\" 'unicode \"Noto Sans\" nil) (set-fontset-font \"fontset-startup\" 'unicode \"Symbola\" nil 'append) (dotimes (_ 5000) (insert (make-string 20 8658) \"\n\")) (goto-char (point-min)) (sit-for 0) (condition-case nil (while t (scroll-up) (sit-for 0)) (error nil)) (run-with-idle-timer 0 nil #'kill-emacs))"
real	1m1.862s
user	0m18.644s
sys	0m15.972s

# Stock 25.1
$ time 25.1/src/emacs -Q --eval "(progn (set-fontset-font \"fontset-startup\" 'unicode \"Noto Sans\" nil) (set-fontset-font \"fontset-startup\" 'unicode \"Symbola\" nil 'append) (dotimes (_ 5000) (insert (make-string 20 8658) \"\n\")) (goto-char (point-min)) (sit-for 0) (condition-case nil (while t (scroll-up) (sit-for 0)) (error nil)) (run-with-idle-timer 0 nil #'kill-emacs))"
real	1m4.705s
user	0m18.296s
sys	0m18.444s

# Master with your patch
$ time master/src/emacs -Q --eval "(progn (set-fontset-font \"fontset-startup\" 'unicode \"Noto Sans\" nil) (set-fontset-font \"fontset-startup\" 'unicode \"Symbola\" nil 'append) (dotimes (_ 5000) (insert (make-string 20 8658) \"\n\")) (goto-char (point-min)) (sit-for 0) (condition-case nil (while t (scroll-up) (sit-for 0)) (error nil)) (run-with-idle-timer 0 nil #'kill-emacs))"
real	0m1.207s
user	0m0.928s
sys	0m0.028s

> If I don't specify the "normal" font in the fontset, only Symbola, or
> if I don't specify fonts at all (Symbola is used by default for the
> character in question), then I get timings like the one below:

I get similar timings.

>   . Why is your 1.5 sec timing deemed "unusably slow" vs 0.35 sec
>     which is the normal speed?  

Because my repro wasn't very good, apparently :) As you see above, your tests takes 1 minute without your patch, and 1 second with it.

>     If I use the same session (with
>     hundreds of U+21D2 symbols) interactively, the display is quite
>     responsive, and 6 sec for scrolling 5000 lines doesn't sound
>     "unusable" to me.

Some redisplays cycles takes as much as a few seconds. That's enough to make it impossible to use Emacs.  In this concrete example, pressing the up arow introduces a half-second lag.  Pressing M-x doesn't show anything for close to .5 seconds.  Keeping the down arrow pressed for 1 second stops redisplay until I release the key, and then Emacs stays frozen for tens of seconds before redisplaying anything.

>     Are you sure the above program exhibits your
>     real-life problem?  Is it possible we are chasing the wrong geese
>     here?

I this it does exhibit my problem, as we saw above.

>   . Why are you setting up your fontset with 2 fonts and claim that
>     both support the entire Unicode range (as opposed to adding to the
>     fontset just one font for specific ranges of codepoints not
>     covered well by the default font)?  

Because you asked me for a minimal repro for my bug :)  In real life, I have more than 6 fonts, all covering different subsets (I linked to my own config in a previous post in this thread).  I don't know exactly what Ubuntu Mono covers, and in fact that changes from time to time, so I just want it to display everything it can (hence the first invocation with 'unicode). Then I want to use Segoe UI for emoji, so I use a range for that.  And then I then want Symbola to be used for any symbol that it covers that are not covered by the previous two fonts — hence the second call with 'unicode.  I then have a few fonts for various CJK ranges, but even there I don't know what exact range each font covers.

But I guess it boils down to: "⇒" is not the only symbol I use, and I don't want to encode all ranges supported by Symbola explicitly in my emacs config (nor, of course, all the CJK ranges supported by the barious fonts I use for east-asian scripts).  As I noted previously, remember that the original bug report didn't even use symbols (I ran into this when trying to edit text written in Chinese in Emacs.

>   . Finally, what are the values of the following variables in your
>     Emacs used for timings?  (I don't see them anywhere in this bug's
>     discussions, apologies if I missed something.)
> 
>       system-configuration-options
>       system-configuration-features

In both, system-configuration-options is ""
system-configuration-features is "XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG IMAGEMAGICK SOUND GPM DBUS GCONF GSETTINGS NOTIFY ACL LIBSELINUX GNUTLS LIBXML2 FREETYPE M17N_FLT LIBOTF XFT ZLIB TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS GTK3 X11" in 25.1 (slow), and "XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG IMAGEMAGICK SOUND GPM DBUS GCONF GSETTINGS NOTIFY ACL LIBSELINUX GNUTLS LIBXML2 FREETYPE M17N_FLT LIBOTF XFT ZLIB TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS GTK3 X11 LIBSYSTEMD" in master with your patch (fast).

> Bottom line: it is strange that you alone see these problems, and no
> one else AFAIR complained about unusably slow prettify-symbols-mode
> display.

I'm not alone.  At least one other person posted to this bug list (https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=21028#74) and confirmed that the patch fixed their problem. The problem gets regularly mentioned elsewhere (when I opened this bug I linked to https://github.com/purcell/emacs.d/issues/273 "when I first try to input some chinese characters, it's very slow to moving [...] especially use C-n, C-p, emacs will hang for about 1~2 seconds."; a more recent example is at https://sympa.inria.fr/sympa/arc/coq-club/2017-03/msg00050.html "Appending to the 'unicode list makes emacs unbearably slow.").  Additionally, as the maintainer of company-coq, I've had multiple people tell me that it was just too slow to use, only to realize that turning off prettify-symbols-mode was enough to make e
 verything snappy again for them.

Clément.





  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-13 16:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-10 10:34 bug#21028: Performance regression in revision af1a69f4d17a482c359d98c00ef86fac835b5fac (Apr 2014) Clément Pit--Claudel
2015-07-10 12:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-07-10 16:02   ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2015-07-10 12:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-07-10 16:55   ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2015-07-15 12:32     ` Dmitry Antipov
2015-07-18 10:24       ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2015-07-18 11:16         ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2015-07-18 11:26           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-07-18 20:08             ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-03-03  6:12       ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-03-03  6:42         ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-03-03  7:08           ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-03-03  7:33             ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-03-03 17:10               ` Glenn Morris
2016-03-03 17:28                 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-03-03 20:27               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-20 21:26                 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-07-21 14:21                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-21 14:33                     ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-07-23 20:50                     ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-10-04 22:17                       ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-10-26 17:15                         ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-10-27 14:38                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-27 15:29                             ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-10-27 15:55                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-28 14:23                                 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-10-28 14:33                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-18  8:55                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-18 17:33                                     ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-12-18 17:37                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-18 18:04                                         ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-12-18 19:52                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-18 20:44                                             ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-12-19 15:50                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-19 16:25                                                 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-12-19 16:39                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-19 16:55                                                     ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-12-19 16:58                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-19 17:13                                                         ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-12-22 16:25                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-22 16:49                                                             ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-12-22 18:04                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-22 19:08                                                                 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2017-02-10  4:45                                                                   ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2017-03-12 11:38                                                                     ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2017-03-12 15:49                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-12 17:24                                                                         ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2017-03-12 17:48                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-12 19:19                                                                             ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2017-03-13 15:46                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-13 16:36                                                                                 ` Clément Pit--Claudel [this message]
2017-03-13 17:22                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-13 19:04                                                                                     ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2017-03-13 20:53                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-14 19:45                                                                                         ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2017-03-15 15:37                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-14 15:45                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-14 19:35                                                                                         ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2017-03-15 15:36                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-15 20:46                                                                                             ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2017-03-16 15:27                                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-16 21:23                                                                                                 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2017-03-17  8:15                                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-16  7:48                                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-16 15:28                                                                                                   ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-12-19 17:00                                                     ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2015-07-10 15:42 ` Glenn Morris
2016-03-03  6:37   ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-10-04 18:56 ` Jason Gross
2017-03-13 15:54 ` bug#21028: Slow font rendering in emacs Ralf Jung
2017-03-13 17:05   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-13 18:12     ` Ralf Jung
2017-03-13 20:39       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-14 15:57         ` Ralf Jung
2017-03-14 17:11           ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-14 18:50             ` Ralf Jung
2017-03-14 19:16               ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-14 19:17             ` Ralf Jung
2017-03-14 20:49             ` John Mastro
2017-03-15 15:40               ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-14 15:47   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-14 18:41     ` Ralf Jung
2017-03-14 19:16       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-14 19:39         ` Ralf Jung
2017-03-14 19:45           ` Ralf Jung
2017-03-15 15:36           ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-22  8:54             ` Ralf Jung
2017-04-22 13:40               ` Eli Zaretskii

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