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[76.168.148.233]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id nk12sm2583436pjb.5.2021.09.29.10.59.05 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 29 Sep 2021 10:59:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87fstn8fak.fsf@gnus.org> Content-Language: en-US X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:215891 Archived-At: On 9/29/2021 10:25 AM, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > I think defaulting show-paren-mode to "on" is a good change in general, > but it's distracting in some modes. For instance, when presenting data > in a buffer, having point flash around when moving around in the buffer > is not what most people will want. > > (Think Gnus buffers, *Help* buffers, etc.) > > Some people have been using this mode for years, though, and are fine > with the cursor bopping around when trying to read data, so > force-disabling it in (say) `special-mode' isn't quite the answer, > either. > > Does anybody see a way to enable it by default in non-special buffers > only, but not explicitly switching it off in special-mode buffers for > those that want it? Perhaps something akin to `font-lock-global-modes'? The help text for that says: > If nil, means no modes have Font Lock mode automatically turned on. > If t, all modes that support Font Lock mode have it automatically turned on. > If a list, it should be a list of ‘major-mode’ symbol names for which Font Lock > mode should be automatically turned on. The sense of the list is negated if it > begins with ‘not’. Then the default value for `show-paren-global-modes' could be `(prog-mode)' or `(prog-mode text-mode)', or even `(not special-mode)', depending on one's opinions about whether `show-paren-mode' makes sense for prose. That would cover both this bug as well as providing an easy way for users to customize the major modes where `show-paren-mode' is enabled (this is already possible with `show-paren-local-mode', but it'd be a bit simpler with `show-paren-global-modes').